The All Things Cycling Thread

#1,901
#1,901
This time around I'm going to have to change both my chain and cassette.

What's the conventional wisdom regarding how long you can roll with a worn set before you risk damaging the front rings?
 
#1,902
#1,902
Need a little help guys. I just recently started road biking daily for exercise..my dad had an old Raleigh r600 bike laying around in the shed that I used for a month or so until the tire blew out of it the other day and the gears are all messed up on it too.


Here's the link to one I found and I really wanna buy but I don't know much about them..any insight would help.

Trek 2300 Road Bike
 
#1,903
#1,903
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#1,905
#1,905
Velo Vol said:
I don't know about that bike in particular, but the number one consideration you should have if you are going used is to make sure you get one that fits you. I didn't see the size listed on that ad.
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I've talked to the guy and he said he's 5'8 and the bike is about 2 inches too tall for him.

Which works out perfectly because I'm right at 5'10-5'11.
 
#1,906
#1,906
Velo Vol said:
This time around I'm going to have to change both my chain and cassette.

What's the conventional wisdom regarding how long you can roll with a worn set before you risk damaging the front rings?
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You can ride on a worn cassette without risking damage to the chainrings. However, the chain will damage chainrings, but it takes a fairly long time to do that. If you want to space out chain and cassette, change the chain first, then cassette. That's not recommended because shifting will be wonky if you do it and the cassette will prematurely wear the chain. I wouldn't worry about front chainrings until 500 miles after the chain is 100% worn.
 
#1,907
#1,907
Turned my Rocky Mountain into a SS mountain bike out of spare parts lying around the shop or parts I already had on it before and a Surly 1x1 rigid fork. It rides very nicely. I'm gonna love it.
 
#1,910
#1,910
V4L said:
Need a little help guys. I just recently started road biking daily for exercise..my dad had an old Raleigh r600 bike laying around in the shed that I used for a month or so until the tire blew out of it the other day and the gears are all messed up on it too.


Here's the link to one I found and I really wanna buy but I don't know much about them..any insight would help.

Trek 2300 Road Bike
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Take it to your local bike shop and give them a few dollars to check it out mechanically. Test ride it to make sure you are 100% comfortable on it.
 
#1,911
#1,911
I shred trail faster on my rigid singlespeed than on my race bike... well, at my local flat, urban trail, anyways. I find myself spinning out on the flats a lot. Climbed the big hill home with no issue, too. I think I'm in love. Got a flat almost right away and didn't even care.
 
#1,912
#1,912
VOLatile said:
You need to ride more. Also, cycling shorts will help. Probably need a smaller saddle and a proper positioned saddle.
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I ride with bibs, it actually started because I got a new saddle, so I went back to my old one for now. I hope that fixes it because it makes for an uncomfortable day haha
 
#1,913
#1,913
bigeasy said:
I ride with bibs, it actually started because I got a new saddle, so I went back to my old one for now. I hope that fixes it because it makes for an uncomfortable day haha
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Saddles are 100% body preference. They need to be broken in, too.
 
#1,914
#1,914
Last race is Sunday. Not sure if I can move up in standing from 4th place or not. Guess I'll just ride a clean race and see where it all shakes out.
 
#1,915
#1,915
bigeasy said:
I ride with bibs, it actually started because I got a new saddle, so I went back to my old one for now. I hope that fixes it because it makes for an uncomfortable day haha
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Saddles usually take 10-12 rides to break in. Keep your rides short until you break it in.

If you went with a different brand or style, check the fit of your bike. It's probably off now. Might have to adjust the seatpost or stem to compensate.

If that doesn't work, exchange it for a different brand or style.
 
#1,916
#1,916
VOLatile said:
You can ride on a worn cassette without risking damage to the chainrings. However, the chain will damage chainrings, but it takes a fairly long time to do that. If you want to space out chain and cassette, change the chain first, then cassette. That's not recommended because shifting will be wonky if you do it and the cassette will prematurely wear the chain. I wouldn't worry about front chainrings until 500 miles after the chain is 100% worn.
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I decided it was probably best to replace it all, since I probably had 15-17,000 miles on that cassette, and the chain had stretched 1/8"+ (per foot).

By the way, how do you know when the chain rings are worn? If the cassette is bad, a new chain will skip. What about in the front?

When it rains, it pours, right? In the few weeks I've had to change computer battery, adjust hub, new chain, cassette, and even a shoe cleat. What a pain.

But, it is a much quieter/smoother ride now.
 
#1,917
#1,917
RE: White Industries Hubs

I didn't see this before, but is this what the shop did to fix the loose hub?

http://whiteind.com/images/REAR_HUB_ADJUSTMENT.pdf

Oh well, at least they only charged $9. I guess it could have been worse.

The guy at the shop said I need to replace at one or two bearings (they didn't have any in stock at the time).

I've been wondering about the degree of difficulty and tools required to do that myself? It might be nice to know how such stuff works, if it isn't rocket science. Don't know about the cost effectiveness. They said it would be $40-50ish at the shop.

The shop guy said it was possible to order bearings from White Industries, but I'm not seeing how to do that?

White Industries
 
#1,918
#1,918
Velo Vol said:
RE: White Industries Hubs

I didn't see this before, but is this what the shop did to fix the loose hub?

http://whiteind.com/images/REAR_HUB_ADJUSTMENT.pdf

Oh well, at least they only charged $9. I guess it could have been worse.

The guy at the shop said I need to replace at one or two bearings (they didn't have any in stock at the time).

I've been wondering about the degree of difficulty and tools required to do that myself? It might be nice to know how such stuff works, if it isn't rocket science. Don't know about the cost effectiveness. They said it would be $40-50ish at the shop.

The shop guy said it was possible to order bearings from White Industries, but I'm not seeing how to do that?

White Industries
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As a shop you can order more things than they offer on their website, such as replacement parts. I haven't gotten my WI hubs yet, so I have no idea the difficulty of replacing bearing. If they're anything like Chris King hubs, then you'll need an expensive ass tool to do it. It's possibly time consuming to do. $40-50 sounds reasonable and definitely worth it for such a good hub.

You can tell chainring wear by looking at the teeth. If worn, you'll notice the teeth begin to look like a shark fin.
 
#1,919
#1,919
You're lucky that you got that much out of your cassette. Shimano generally recommends a new cassette every 3000 miles or so. I stretch them further than that, though.

Hub adjustments can be a 5 min job, or take a good amount of time. They also require special cone wrenches. I couldn't read the pdf file on my phone, but I'm sure that's what they did. If they only charged $9, then you got off pretty easily. Our minimum charge is $10, except for tube changes which are $7.
 
#1,920
#1,920
tri_vol said:
Saddles usually take 10-12 rides to break in. Keep your rides short until you break it in.

If you went with a different brand or style, check the fit of your bike. It's probably off now. Might have to adjust the seatpost or stem to compensate.

If that doesn't work, exchange it for a different brand or style.
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Unless you're riding a Brooks, which can take upwards to 1000 miles to fully break in with proper stretching and conditioning. I don't understand how the hipsters do it when they just hop on their bikes for 20 mins at a time.
 
#1,921
#1,921
VOLatile said:
You're lucky that you got that much out of your cassette. Shimano generally recommends a new cassette every 3000 miles or so. I stretch them further than that, though.
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I guess if you can convince people to consume more of your product, why not?

How is it possible wear out a cassette that quickly? Ride through sand dunes?
 
#1,922
#1,922
Had a great 45 mile road ride on wednesday morning. Took yesterday off to rest up a bit. Looking to knock out another good ride on Sunday.
 
#1,924
#1,924
Velo Vol said:
I guess if you can convince people to consume more of your product, why not?

How is it possible wear out a cassette that quickly? Ride through sand dunes?
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I have no idea. I know that I blow through chains faster than anyone I know just because of the power in my legs. I haven't changed the cassette yet. If you don't clean the chain and cassette on a regular basis, the grit on the chain acts like sandpaper on the cassette. I have replaced cassettes so worn that I could take and twist them by hand, sheering all of the pins inside. If there's play in the cogs, that's a clear indication that it needs to be replaced. Just be glad you're not running Campy 11 speed, Red, Dura-Ace, or Dura-Ace 11 speed... a replacement cassette for those is astronomical. A 105 cassette is still MSRP $100. Replacing a chain when it's needed makes a huge difference.
 
#1,925
#1,925
My bill at the shop is astronomical. Over $500... And that's at 10% above cost! Just ordered 650b rims today. White Industries disc hubs may come next week or the week after. I better start paying on my bill...
 
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