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#1,928
namasteVOLfans said:
he is unquestionably the best player right now. and arguably the best player to ever play.
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Come on now... Everyone knows Berbatov is the best.


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Even when he's playing MU, I have nothing but complete respect and amazement for what the little maestro can do with a soccer ball. Potential run/goal past four defenders every single time he's on the ball.
 
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Not a huge Messi fan, but I will freely admit he is the best player by far. Cristiano is great, but I would take Messi over him in a heartbeat. The only thing I would like to see from Messi is for him to be more of a force on the international stage, but he has plenty of time to do that.
 
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#1,931
DarthVisor said:
Wish we had played better. Glad you guys won, though! F city.
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Sorry to see you guys lose, but at the least, you'll be able to get out of that group and make a run in the next round. I wouldn't sweat it too much.

And yeah, F City. What a train wreck of a squad. I delight in seeing that collection of overpaid misfits and primadonnas fail. Their failure is good for football.
 
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#1,932
namasteVOLfans said:
he is unquestionably the best player right now. and arguably the best player to ever play.
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can't be the best player ever if you only work well in a specific system...

What happens when he doesn't have Xavi and Iniesta behind him? He fades into no man's land.
 
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#1,935
TylerD said:
Were Arsenal the only English club to win today?

I'm going to hold on to this moment.
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Well well well, looks like Arsenal's lucky day in group stages. :)


Only kidding. Hope everyone advances out of their respective groups to keep the competition top notch. And good job to to your gooners.

Btw, has anyone purchased 12 yet? I believe I'm a couple days behind, but I've been much busier than I like the past week or so, quite distracted. I just reserved it and will be picking up from gamestop here in Hawaii tomorrow. I think I got confused with the EU release happening later than North America this year... anyway enough excuses, hope its rocks my socks off.

Update: Picked it up today, will be popping it in in a few. See you kiddies there.
 
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#1,939
TylerD said:
prove to me that I am wrong, please.
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Anyone who truly watches Barca games knows that Messi is the one who makes the offense tick. Messi gets injured, the team quickly falls apart and can't break teams down. Yes, xavi is important, but not nearly as vital as Messi is. And Messi won the Balon d'or basically playing without Iniesta for almost the entire season in the 2009-2010 season.
 
#1,940
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Andy Carroll scored in the very entertaining Mersyside Derby this morning

Martin Atkinson may be the worst ref in the EPL and for some reason continues to get important matchups
 
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#1,941
volball625 said:
Anyone who truly watches Barca games knows that Messi is the one who makes the offense tick. Messi gets injured, the team quickly falls apart and can't break teams down. Yes, xavi is important, but not nearly as vital as Messi is. And Messi won the Balon d'or basically playing without Iniesta for almost the entire season in the 2009-2010 season.
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That is still him playing for Barca.. in their system.

Would you say he is the same player for Argentina? Is his goal record close to the same? Is he just as productive? Here, I'll help... 62 appearances with 17 goals.

This is to be compared to 182 appearances and 127 goals for Barcelona.

Xavi and Iniesta not only make it happen for Barcelona but they also managed to take their team through and win the World Cup. That is maybe something we should keep in mind. The are turning the gears whether you want to admit it or not. Why do you think it was so vital to get Cesc?
 
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banman360 said:
Andy Carroll scored in the very entertaining Mersyside Derby this morning

Martin Atkinson may be the worst ref in the EPL and for some reason continues to get important matchups
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after that red card I was begging the tv to let everton draw. That was ridiculous.
 
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#1,943
TylerD said:
That is still him playing for Barca.. in their system.

Would you say he is the same player for Argentina? Is his goal record close to the same? Is he just as productive? Here, I'll help... 62 appearances with 17 goals.

This is to be compared to 182 appearances and 127 goals for Barcelona.

Xavi and Iniesta not only make it happen for Barcelona but they also managed to take their team through and win the World Cup. That is maybe something we should keep in mind. The are turning the gears whether you want to admit it or not. Why do you think it was so vital to get Cesc?
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I think he plays pretty damn well for Argentina. They probably rely on him more than Barcelona. He doesn't have the scoring record as he does with Barca but he is heavily involved in almost all their goals.

Also doesn't make sense that he relies on Xavi-Iniesta if he has so many damn assists this year. He arguably has better vision than both of them. And honestly, I wouldn't even say it's arguable.

We got Cesc for many reasons. The system we run requires highly skilled players and it's obvious we had no freaking depth, so we needed someone to fill the gap. And despite his injury yesterday, it ended up being a pretty smart buy.
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HawaiiVol said:
Poor guy was just trying to put on some weight.

Manchester United's David De Gea warned over stolen doughnut - ESPN Soccernet

Over/Under on # of doughnuts thrown at his goal next game?
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£1.29 for a krispy kreme donut that had to be shipped a couple thousand miles, and not "hot now". I'd take my chances with getting arrested, or warned by security guards and then signing a couple posters. BTW, Tesco has some banging penne with tomato sauce in the refrigerated section. Used to be my go-to at 3am if the schnitzel/shawarma stand was already closed.
 
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#1,946
banman360 said:
Andy Carroll scored in the very entertaining Mersyside Derby this morning

Martin Atkinson may be the worst ref in the EPL and for some reason continues to get important matchups
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that call was just awful. Was nice to watch Howard have a solid game until being set up by his defense. PK save was a beauty
 
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#1,947
volball625 said:
I think he plays pretty damn well for Argentina. They probably rely on him more than Barcelona. He doesn't have the scoring record as he does with Barca but he is heavily involved in almost all their goals.

Also doesn't make sense that he relies on Xavi-Iniesta if he has so many damn assists this year. He arguably has better vision than both of them. And honestly, I wouldn't even say it's arguable.

We got Cesc for many reasons. The system we run requires highly skilled players and it's obvious we had no freaking depth, so we needed someone to fill the gap. And despite his injury yesterday, it ended up being a pretty smart buy.
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i wouldnt put too much stock into that poster. i will go by the assessment of the people trying to defend messi, and they have said what he does on the field is other worldly. he has great vision, great ball control, and great speed to get away from defenders. His mastery on the ball is something i havent seen since Zidane. its like the ball is stuck to his feet. and i like how every time he scores he points to the heavens. We are watching one of the great one's.
 
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#1,949
namasteVOLfans said:
i wouldnt put too much stock into that poster. i will go by the assessment of the people trying to defend messi, and they have said what he does on the field is other worldly. he has great vision, great ball control, and great speed to get away from defenders. His mastery on the ball is something i havent seen since Zidane. its like the ball is stuck to his feet. and i like how every time he scores he points to the heavens. We are watching one of the great one's.
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Yet, you claimed he was the best ever....

This is my point. Oh, and lol at you saying not to put too much stock into my post. I was just stating the obvious, but you can put your stock in your own little beliefs if you want. Besides, making claims while having that player as your avatar kinda ruins your credibility.. Little bit biased? maybe.
 
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