The BCS vs. The Bowl Alliance

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12 years after the adoption of the BCS, I've been wondering what the perspective is on the former system with alot of people. Question......if you had to pick one or the other to go with for the next 10 years assuming that a playoff isn't an option, what would you go with and why? Did the switch really improve things? Thought this might be an interesting argument to revisit and get some persepctive on.

Also, if you were to pick the bowl alliance system again what changes would you possibly make with the tie ins or bowl games to possibly help improve the system?
 
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Wasn't the only difference was that the BCS included the Rose Bowl/Big Ten/Pac 10? I'd definitely have to say I prefer this system.

Out of curiosity, can anyone clarify the difference between the Bowl Alliance and the Bowl Coalition?
 
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tvolsfan said:
Wasn't the only difference was that the BCS included the Rose Bowl/Big Ten/Pac 10? I'd definitely have to say I prefer this system.
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a ranking system based around human voting vs. a ranking system based around a formula through a computer is/was also a difference.

and the rose wasn't included until the bcs, but i think the top teams from those conferences could vie for an at large spot in one of the alliance bowls if i remember correctly.
 
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duckman398686 said:
a ranking system based around human voting vs. a ranking system based around a formula through a computer also.

and the rose wasn't included until the bcs, but i think the top teams from those conferences could vie for an at large spot in one of the alliance bowls if i remember correctly.
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I'm too young to remember the methods, but OSU definitely played in the Sugar Bowl after the 1997 season, so they did have the opportunity.
 
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For me the BCS has made all the other bowls less interesting (except for the title game and UT's bowl) because only one game matters where in years past the bowls seemed more exciting.
 
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I'm not sure why that should be the case. In my opinion, that probably has more to do with the fact that there are way too many bowl games now.
 
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And just for the record, i'm not suggesting that i would like the former system over the current one. Just thought this might be an interesting topic considering how much the heat the BCS has gotten the last few years.
 
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duckman398686 said:
And just for the record, i'm not suggesting that i would like the former system over the current one. Just thought this might be an interesting topic considering how much the heat the BCS has gotten the last few years.
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It's really just about who has gotten left out lately, IMO. It's hard to argue against the teams that won the title under the Bowl Alliance system. Even in 1997, we had split champions, but it's not as bad as someone getting left out.

If that system was still in place:
Miami wins the title in 2002
Ohio State, or maybe even Michigan, possibly wins the the title in 2006
Ohio State possibly wins the title in 2007, although I don't seem them beating USC
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'm not sure why that should be the case. In my opinion, that probably has more to do with the fact that there are way too many bowl games now.
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it also has to do with the fact that there is a definite national title game now. under the bowl alliance system, all of the major bowl games meant alot more as a whole since there could possibly be another team in another bowl game(other than the designated title game) that might have an outside chance of being crowned national champion if the dominoes fell correctly.

in '97, tennessee actually had an outside shot at being national champs had washington st beaten michigan in the rose bowl, and tennessee defeated nebraska in the orange.
 
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duckman398686 said:
it also has to do with the fact that there is a definite national title game now. under the bowl alliance system, all of the major bowl games meant alot more as a whole since there could possibly be another team in another bowl game(other than the designated title game) that might have an outside chance of being crowned national champion if the dominoes fell correctly.

in '97, tennessee actually had an outside shot at being national champs had washington st beaten michigan in the rose bowl, and tennessee defeated nebraska in the orange.
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These are the scenarios that made the old system more exciting. Because of the BCS, these bowls seem worthless except for the title game.
 
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I'd still say the fact that 1 & 2 actually play each other is an improvement over the former
 
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I prefer the old system. It made the other games worth watching. Now they all seem so pointless other than the extra practice time.

I also miss having 12 awesome bowl games, all on New Year's Day. Used to set up 3 or 4 TVs side by side.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Wasn't the only difference was that the BCS included the Rose Bowl/Big Ten/Pac 10? I'd definitely have to say I prefer this system.

Out of curiosity, can anyone clarify the difference between the Bowl Alliance and the Bowl Coalition?
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BCS gives you a 1v2 every year. That didn't happen under the BC.
 
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The BCS does what it was intended to do. It gives us a 1vs2 matchup for the title. I agree that the other games are less meaningful. Part of the problem for me is that they have moved the traditional New Year's Day games to the week between New Year's and the title game. New Year's Day used to be my favorite day of the year because it gave us a bonanza of the very best teams in college football playing against each other. Now we have the Ticket City Bowl (whatever) being played on Jan 1.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'm too young to remember the methods, but OSU definitely played in the Sugar Bowl after the 1997 season, so they did have the opportunity.
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OSU was atlarge. The Big 10 winner Michigan played in the Rose Bowl.
 
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