The Braves Thread

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mr.checkerboards said:
I was thinking this myself earlier. It's not that I'm a Banks fan, but what job is worth leaving a cushy coordinator job for thats open? West Virginia maybe?
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I wouldn't leave except for most power conference jobs or a really good G5 (or whatever those conferences are called now) job that has a history of winning and a chance to make the 12-team playoff via winning a conference title. These coordinator jobs at big schools like Banks already has all pay $1.5-$2.5m/year now. Not all that long ago they were making $250k, so the instant they got offered any head job they would leave. If I'm going to be the head guy that is responsible for running the whole program, I don't think you make the jump unless you get a huge raise.

WVU, UNC, and UCF would all qualify - Central Michigan definitely would not.

UNC is under-the-radar one of the best jobs in the country. It is one of the few places where it is entirely possible to be very competitive (good recruiting area, it's the ACC, etc.) but they don't expect all that much because basketball is king. They just let Mack Brown coach there for 6 years despite going 44-33 (27-23) with Sam Howell and Drake Maye as his QBs. The heat didn't even get truly ratcheted up on him until this year when he gave up a 70 burger to James Madison.
 
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zjcvols said:
I wouldn’t touch Arkansas with a 10 foot pole. Program that expects top 15 results and is the 12th best suited program in their own conference
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Agreed. Super tough combo for a coach there. It is fairly tough to win there, but their admin and fans don't think that it is. The moment they stop winning less than 8 or 9 games a year they start talking about wanting to fire the coach. USCjr is the exact same way. I'm kind of surprised Pittman is seemingly going to keep his job.
 
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05_never_again said:
I wouldn't leave except for most power conference jobs or a really good G5 (or whatever those conferences are called now) job that has a history of winning and a chance to make the 12-team playoff via winning a conference title. These coordinator jobs at big schools like Banks already has all pay $1.5-$2.5m/year now. Not all that long ago they were making $250k, so the instant they got offered any head job they would leave. If I'm going to be the head guy that is responsible for running the whole program, I don't think you make the jump unless you get a huge raise.

WVU, UNC, and UCF would all qualify - Central Michigan definitely would not.

UNC is under-the-radar one of the best jobs in the country. It is one of the few places where it is entirely possible to be very competitive (good recruiting area, it's the ACC, etc.) but they don't expect all that much because basketball is king. They just let Mack Brown coach there for 6 years despite going 44-33 (27-23) with Sam Howell and Drake Maye as his QBs. The heat didn't even get truly ratcheted up on him until this year when he gave up a 70 burger to James Madison.
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Georgia
LSU

Texas
Alabama

Florida
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Auburn
Oklahoma

Ole Miss
South Carolina
Missouri

Arkansas
Kentucky
Miss State

Vanderbilt

How I would rank sec jobs
 
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zjcvols said:
Georgia
LSU

Texas
Alabama

Florida
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Auburn
Oklahoma

Ole Miss
South Carolina
Missouri

Arkansas
Kentucky
Miss State

Vanderbilt

How I would rank sec jobs
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I think I might swap South Carolina and Kentucky's spots, but that's a great list. Totally agree with the 2 at the top being in a class by themselves.
 
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AV_12 said:
Texas tier 1 and Florida tier 2
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I think the political labyrinth at Texas keeps it out of a tier 1 SEC job. UGA (and LSU too) are a lot simpler. They are the only show in their state and they stay out of the way of the head coach. You have to win at an incredibly high level, consistently, to keep the boosters off of you at Texas.
 
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05_never_again said:
I think the political labyrinth at Texas keeps it out of a tier 1 SEC job. UGA (and LSU too) are a lot simpler. They are the only show in their state and they stay out of the way of the head coach. You have to win at an incredibly high level, consistently, to keep the boosters off of you at Texas.
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Exactly. Plus you got to deal with so many P4 schools for recruiting that LSU and Georgia don’t have to deal with. LSU and Georgia you can survive a 8-4 year if you have banked enough good will. At Texas, if Sark went 7-5 next year, even with the last two years he’s on the hot seat
 
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I’d put Texas up there with Georgia and LSU. Alabama has program history and recent relevance thanks to Saban, but that’s now a spoiled fan base that’s going to be hard to please and a large shadow to outgrow.

South Carolina could be a beast with the right HC, but they still would be middle of the pack in the SEC.
 
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zjcvols said:
Florida has serious resources/NIL issues the other schools don’t have
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I’m sure with the right coach those will fix themselves. It’s a recruiting hot bed and they’ve won big time before. It’s stil an elite job. Hell if Lane can get players to ole miss I’m sure UF can figure it out with the right guy.
 
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zjcvols said:
Georgia
LSU

Texas
Alabama

Florida
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Auburn
Oklahoma

Ole Miss
South Carolina
Missouri

Arkansas
Kentucky
Miss State

Vanderbilt

How I would rank sec jobs
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In terms of wanting the job or what

Alabama is as tier 1 as it gets unless you don’t want to be the guy living in sabans shadow

I hate them but Texas is tier 1 without a doubt. You could make the same case for A&M but with less historical accomplishment.

Oklahoma is too high. Mississippi State is way too high.
 
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LSU is also too high. Both objectively and in my personal opinion.

You couldn’t pay me enough to be LSUs head coach.
 
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zjcvols said:
Georgia
LSU

Texas
Alabama

Florida
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Auburn
Oklahoma

Ole Miss
South Carolina
Missouri

Arkansas
Kentucky
Miss State

Vanderbilt

How I would rank sec jobs
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Also, I think it is worth mentioning how much OU has slipped on this tier relative to where they were in the Big 12. Maybe this is easy to say after the season they just had, but that job I think is way less attractive now that they are in the SEC despite their brand and great historical pedigree. I think you've correctly got them as something close to a mid-level job in this conference. You could argue they should be above Auburn (I don't think I would, but you could), but I don't think you can make a great argument that they should be above anyone else in your list.

OU has actually punched above its weight as a program historically. Kind of like Nebraska, although perhaps not to quite the same degree. It has always been kind of curious to me that Texas has the advantage in the Red River Rivalry, but OU overall is the more successful program.

Now the two major Texas schools, along with OU, are in a conference with all the legacy SEC programs. I don't think they are as in as good of a position to poach Texas recruits anymore. Of course it makes sense financially and that's why they joined, but competitively on the field I don't think it is necessarily great for them.
 
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zjcvols said:
Florida has serious resources/NIL issues the other schools don’t have
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Florida was hot trash for a large portion of the year with their HC’s job in jeopardy and they’re about to have the strongest close in the country on the recruiting front. The NIL has worked itself out
 
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