The definitive review by film guy: How UGA shut down UT

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The TLDR (but watch it anyway): GA ran a much lighter box to defend and repeatedly paddled our Oline even with fewer people, with the mike coming through it like swiss cheese, thus giving them 2-3 extra safeties to pretty much shut down any explosive opportunities we had downfield. Even when we did catch one, there was plenty in the backfield to pick them up quickly. Sure they give Sampson a few yards but rarely let him break out.
 
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Vol865 said:
Summary: OL sucks
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Not really, or we wouldnt be 8-2 with wins over Bama and a pretty dang good Flarda team thats probably gonna go bowling with a schedule that could have been 3-9 easily. Or even 2-10 honestly.

That said...you are correct in that the Oline is the biggest reason for both the Arkansas loss AND the UGA loss. They got manhandled in both. Our Tackles especially graded out in the low 40s on PFF in BOTH games. 70s is a pretty good starter at an FBS school. 40s is "you better replace them coach, or you're never gonna beat the best teams".
 
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Brooks is really good at breaking down film. I’m glad people are finding him. He talks about UGA because of his job, but I think he’d love to land a gig breaking down film for the whole SEC. He has a teacher’s ability to communicate concepts.

And, for all the things UGA did, Saturday was a game of inches. A lineman who gets blocked 2 feet further is the difference between an explosive run—maybe a TD—and a 2-yard gain.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Not really, or we wouldnt be 8-2 with wins over Bama and a pretty dang good Flarda team thats probably gonna go bowling with a schedule that could have been 3-9 easily. Or even 2-10 honestly.

That said...you are correct in that the Oline is the biggest reason for both the Arkansas loss AND the UGA loss. They got manhandled in both. Our Tackles especially graded out in the low 40s on PFF in BOTH games. 70s is a pretty good starter at an FBS school. 40s is "you better replace them coach, or you're never gonna beat the best teams".
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Well I mean the OTs especially have been bad but the OGs haven't been great. Cooper has been decent and for everything he brings mentally, hes not exactly a mauler. If you can't run on light boxes, that's a direct reflection on your OL. Sampson has made something out of nothing quite often. They've shown up at times but not nearly enough. Definitely need to hit the portal hard.
 
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There's not a lot of insight in seeing that teams keep their safeties back against us. We got 5 yards per carry from our running backs and had our critical drives stopped by a missed pass interference and a false start.
 
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kckempf said:
There's not a lot of insight in seeing that teams keep their safeties back against us. We got 5 yards per carry from our running backs and had our critical drives stopped by a missed pass interference and a false start.
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No. Drives were stopped when they chose to show a 5-man box and CJH still called a pass. It’s math. UGA showed light boxes all night and UT couldn’t make them pay.
 
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We might make a playoff run, maybe this year in fact, but we won’t win championships until we have very good to elite offensive line play. Michigan won a championship without high-level offensive playmaking ability because they had a good defense and an elite o-line. If we can get to the point where our o-line can do what Georgia’s did to an elite defensive front Saturday, we’ll be cooking with grease. All judgments of Nico and playcalling are secondary to this.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
The interior of our line is good enough to win a natty.

Our tackles play is good enough to compete in the AAC....
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Not so. I’m a fan of Spragg but he routinely fails to pass off blocks correctly, blocks a linebacker instead of a tackle, whiffs entirely, or gets blown up. Not sure about Karic. Coop is solid though. We need guys like Sham and Max Anderson to step up big next year.
 
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Nooga said:
No. Drives were stopped when they chose to show a 5-man box and CJH still called a pass. It’s math. UGA showed light boxes all night and UT couldn’t make them pay.
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I think this is right. UT ran well, but it faced 18 third downs. Sampson had some nice runs (dang is he good!), but he also had a lot of 2-3 yard runs. UGA made the bet that it could eventually get a drive-stopping negative play or an incompletion if it made UT grind out yards.

I wonder if UT would commit more to the run if it had the game to do over again.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
Not so. I’m a fan of Spragg but he routinely fails to pass of blocks correctly, blocks a linebacker instead of a tackle, whiffs entirely, or gets blown up. Not sure about Karic. Coop is solid though. We need guys like Sham and Max Anderson to step up big next year.
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If we replaced 40 PFF tackles with 60s PFF tackles, we are 9-1, at a minimum, and in drivers sent for first round bye.

Our interior is good enough to win.

Im not asking to replace tackles with Darnell Wright. Just middle of the road SEC tackles....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
If we replaced 40 PFF tackles with 60s PFF tackles, we are 9-1, at a minimum, and in drivers sent for first round bye.

Our interior is good enough to win.

Im not asking to replace tackles with Darnell Wright. Just middle of the road SEC tackles....
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It’s unfortunate with the tackles. I think they’d be significantly better if they’d been healthy all Summer. I wouldn’t be surprised by a big jump from Heard next year, easy to forget he’s just a sophomore.
 
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Visidog said:
Brooks is really good at breaking down film. I’m glad people are finding him. He talks about UGA because of his job, but I think he’d love to land a gig breaking down film for the whole SEC. He has a teacher’s ability to communicate concepts.

And, for all the things UGA did, Saturday was a game of inches. A lineman who gets blocked 2 feet further is the difference between an explosive run—maybe a TD—and a 2-yard gain.
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We sucked Saturday but we got hosed on several calls that were sketchy at best.
 
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Ya wanna know the honest breakdown… we couldn’t overcome penalties (we have a freshman QB) and they put a lot of weight on Samp to perform (which he did for the most part) but we needed everything to go our way and unfortunately everything went UGA’s way in the first and second half. Our routes get messy whenever you overload and we don’t really have a 3rd down guy that is reliable to get open and catch a ball (was McCoy before he got hurt)

It is what it is… but UGA should watch out next year.
 
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Deathandtaxes said:
Ya wanna know the honest breakdown… we couldn’t overcome penalties (we have a freshman QB) and they put a lot of weight on Samp to perform (which he did for the most part) but we needed everything to go our way and unfortunately everything went UGA’s way in the first and second half. Our routes get messy whenever you overload and we don’t really have a 3rd down guy that is reliable to get open and catch a ball (was McCoy before he got hurt)

It is what it is… but UGA should watch out next year.
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Next year with 80% of the OLine replaced. No dynamic,All SEC or All American RB. Still no game breaking receiver. Many of your stud DLine gone.
Next year could look real ugly if UT doesn't evaluate, pay and develop properly at some key positions.
Go get a game changer at WR. Get a portal RB that's solid. Dear Lord go get an OLine that can hold up for more than 2.5 seconds so your QB can step up on the pocket instead of fleeing immediately.
Might need to get a DC if Banks gets a head coaching opportunity
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
Not so. I’m a fan of Spragg but he routinely fails to pass of blocks correctly, blocks a linebacker instead of a tackle, whiffs entirely, or gets blown up. Not sure about Karic. Coop is solid though. We need guys like Sham and Max Anderson to step up big next year.
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Yep. He's been the source of a lot of the pass pro breakdowns. DC's know it now and are throwing a lot of stunts and twists at him.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Not really, or we wouldnt be 8-2 with wins over Bama and a pretty dang good Flarda team thats probably gonna go bowling with a schedule that could have been 3-9 easily. Or even 2-10 honestly.

That said...you are correct in that the Oline is the biggest reason for both the Arkansas loss AND the UGA loss. They got manhandled in both. Our Tackles especially graded out in the low 40s on PFF in BOTH games. 70s is a pretty good starter at an FBS school. 40s is "you better replace them coach, or you're never gonna beat the best teams".
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hate the gators, but I said it at the beginning of the season and still say it now, Florida has the hardest schedule of anyone in the country.
 
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Gandalf said:
The TLDR (but watch it anyway): GA ran a much lighter box to defend and repeatedly paddled our Oline even with fewer people, with the mike coming through it like swiss cheese, thus giving them 2-3 extra safeties to pretty much shut down any explosive opportunities we had downfield. Even when we did catch one, there was plenty in the backfield to pick them up quickly. Sure they give Sampson a few yards but rarely let him break out.
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Also, trips would give numbers advantage. Just sayin. And I have. And more WR screens. WR's also do not run good routes. Especially on stop and goes.

But agree also on OL. Not a lot of time to throw and when defense is continually giving you five man fronts Sampson should have 200 yards. This is why I said both lines were exposed against a top tier team. Would be great if we could get RB in wheel routes more and more involved in the passing game but they're having to stay in to help pass block. OL issues are obvious.
 
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