The Double High Post....

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Unimane

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is killing me. Can anyone explain to me why we are putting our two post players 15 feet away from the basket? I watched it the entire second half and I can't make rhyme or reason for it.
 
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I think its to get a quick look at a high low pass to the big that doesnt get the initial pass. I cant stand it. Its a decent set play to run to get a quick bucket or foul, but as an offensive set its terrible. Needs to be an occasional set play and thats it, imo
 
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TMvol10 said:
I think its to get a quick look at a high low pass to the big that doesnt get the initial pass. I cant stand it. Its a decent set play to run to get a quick bucket or foul, but as an offensive set its terrible. Needs to be an occasional set play and thats it, imo
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Let me re-phrase that..The high low action is what it should be used for and sometimes it has worked. In no way should it be used to initiate our man offense, which is whats happening close to 50% of the time now
 
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Unimane said:
is killing me. Can anyone explain to me why we are putting our two post players 15 feet away from the basket? I watched it the entire second half and I can't make rhyme or reason for it.
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You don't want WCS down low having a block party so you draw him out in the high post.
 
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It would be a lot more effective if our posts could consistently hit that shot. Stokes is the only one who has shown the potential to
 
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Stoked4Zo said:
You don't want WCS down low having a block party so you draw him out in the high post.
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And use a post that can't score from there? If that's the thinking, run out another wing player to draw WCS away from the basket and still have a scoring option.
 
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Conzo has not been doing this all year, but he's starting to realize that Maymon nor Stokes have the ability to score down low against teams with length. So many people want Stokes down low, but unless he can over power his opponent he's terrible down low. The biggest mistake Zo has made is not starting someone other then Maymon beside Stokes. Maymon and Stokes on the floor at the same time is counter productive on offense other then giving us a huge advantage on the boards. Another major issue here with this system is that our guards run a weave while our post set high screens. We aren't in a motion most the time because our bigs never go out to the wings. This clogs the middle of the paint and counters all productive motion going towards the basket. I'm not real old guys, but I've been asked to fill in as a coach some for middle school summer teams, and the one lesson you teach players from a young age is spread the floor. You play into the defenses favor by clogging the paint because it makes the defense guard less space. It's even more critical to have proper floor spacing as you get older because players get faster and bigger and can cover more space. The Denver Nuggets last year utilized floor spacing as good as any team I've ever seen. They actually purposely ran out of bounds on fast breaks to spread the floor, and it lead to them being a great fast break team. Point is, the more space you have the easier it is to penetrate the basket and score. It's basketball 101.
 
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When a starting big that has the offense designed for him to create offense and he shoots sub 40% with 90+% of his shots being from 5 feet or less - you have a problem.
 
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It draws the bigs for the other teams out of the box allowing our wings or guards to miss lay ups or jack up stupid, off balance 3 pointers.

See McRae most of the game yesterday.
 
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It's called an "A-Set" or "Horns set," and there's literally thousands of actions that teams run out of the initial alignment. The Horns look became pretty popular in the NBA, and is prevelant in the college game as well (Izzo and Krzyzewski have run a lot of Horns stuff). It's similar to a 1-4 high set except the wings are in the corners rather than free-throw line extended, and the posts are a step or two higher off the elbow up lane line extended. Most sets are quick-hitters with specific actions. Typically, you see a lot of dribble handoffs, ball screens, and pin-downs, but you can find Horns sets to get a lot of different looks (post-ups, high-low action, etc.).
 
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