The Fine Art of Burying Your Head in the Sand

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So your AD waited until absolute rock bottom before firing your coach, doesn't seem to have a plan in place, and according to most reports ran off the grand slam hire who was interested in the job. Don't worry...

Step 1: Say "Let's wait until he at least makes a hire before we start criticizing".

Okay. Now your AD has gone out and hired someone all right. He doesn't excite you. Maybe he has a history of losses to teams with lesser talent or he's been fired from another school previously. Based on his record, it doesn't seem likely that he's going to come in to the SEC and compete for championships anytime soon. Some fans are upset, but not you...

Step 2: Just say "We have to wait at least until he coaches a game for us, before we jump to any conclusions"

Okay, so it's midway through the first season. The team is getting decimated by our rivals as usual. There hasn't seemed to be much if any improvement from one game to the next. Meanwhile, recruiting is looking like it will finish outside the top 5 in the SEC yet again. Neyland Stadium looks emptier each week, but you don't care...

Step 3: Just say "We'll have to wait until the end of the season to evaluate all of it."

So, the seasons pass and TN makes slight improvements here or there. Maybe they even get up to 3rd in the East at some point. But you're still getting beat handily anytime you face one of your rivals. The losing streaks to Florida and Alabama are reaching historic proportions. Recruiting hasn't improved much. The fans who are left are grumbling a bit, but you know better...

Step 4: Just say "Once its been 4 years and our coach gets a full team of his guys, then we'll see what he can do."

Time passes and your coach hasn't improved any further. It's clear he's hit his ceiling and, meanwhile, even the lousy teams you used to beat have upgraded their coaches and talent level, while you've stayed stagnant. A string of super embarrassing losses leaves the stands nearly empty and the program an utter joke. The AD is forced to finally fire the coach (even though it seems he doesn't really want to). Most of the fanbase wonders how it got this bad. And they're worried about an AD who let the previous guy lose so much before he took action and they're worried about reports coming out about the search that suggest the AD doesn't know what he's doing and isn't going after the top candidates. But you're not worried, you're optimistic.

Step 5: Say "Let's wait until he at least makes a hire before we start criticizing".
 
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So your AD waited until absolute rock bottom before firing your coach, doesn't seem to have a plan in place, and according to most reports ran off the grand slam hire who was interested in the job. Don't worry...

Step 1: Say "Let's wait until he at least makes a hire before we start criticizing".

Okay. Now your AD has gone out and hired someone all right. He doesn't excite you. Maybe he has a history of losses to teams with lesser talent or he's been fired from another school previously. Based on his record, it doesn't seem likely that he's going to come in to the SEC and compete for championships anytime soon. Some fans are upset, but not you...

Step 2: Just say "We have to wait at least until he coaches a game for us, before we jump to any conclusions"

Okay, so it's midway through the first season. The team is getting decimated by our rivals as usual. There hasn't seemed to be much if any improvement from one game to the next. Meanwhile, recruiting is looking like it will finish outside the top 5 in the SEC yet again. Neyland Stadium looks emptier each week, but you don't care...

Step 3: Just say "We'll have to wait until the end of the season to evaluate all of it."

So, the seasons pass and TN makes slight improvements here or there. Maybe they even get up to 3rd in the East at some point. But you're still getting beat handily anytime you face one of your rivals. The losing streaks to Florida and Alabama are reaching historic proportions. Recruiting hasn't improved much. The fans who are left are grumbling a bit, but you know better...

Step 4: Just say "Once its been 4 years and our coach gets a full team of his guys, then we'll see what he can do."

Time passes and your coach hasn't improved any further. It's clear he's hit his ceiling and, meanwhile, even the lousy teams you used to beat have upgraded their coaches and talent level, while you've stayed stagnant. A string of super embarrassing losses leaves the stands nearly empty and the program an utter joke. The AD is forced to finally fire the coach (even though it seems he doesn't really want to). Most of the fanbase wonders how it got this bad. And they're worried about an AD who let the previous guy lose so much before he took action and they're worried about reports coming out about the search that suggest the AD doesn't know what he's doing and isn't going after the top candidates. But you're not worried, you're optimistic.

Step 5: Say "Let's wait until he at least makes a hire before we start criticizing".


As opposed to knowing with unquestionable certainty who the aboslute perfect selection would be? And that candidate being currently available, and willing to walk into this job without considering other alternatives? And, once in place - unparrralled instant success? Is that what you are promissing us if we can get you the AD job?
 
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Should go to campus and cry like babies and throw hissy fits?

Naw, I'll wait and see what happens and smile. I like smiling, smiling's my favorite.
 
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As opposed to knowing with unquestionable certainty who the aboslute perfect selection would be? And that candidate being currently available, and willing to walk into this job without considering other alternatives? And, once in place - unparrralled instant success? Is that what you are promissing us if we can get you the AD job?

Facts don't matter to an idiot. They stand back and hurl grenades, but offer no solutions.
 
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So your AD waited until absolute rock bottom before firing your coach, doesn't seem to have a plan in place, and according to most reports ran off the grand slam hire who was interested in the job. Don't worry...

It's gotten to the point where you can't swing a dead cat in this place without hitting one of these 'the sky is falling' posts on VN. I stopped reading after the above from the OP. Only thing that was missing from that post was a little Conway Twitty 'cry in your beer' background music on the jukebox.
 
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So we hire Gruden...does that change the fact that UT has a pretty tough schedule next year with games at Oregon, Bama, & UF?

It's going to be tough no matter who UT hires.
 
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Facts don't matter to an idiot. They stand back and hurl grenades, but offer no solutions.

My "solution" is to get this guy the AD job since he obviously has it all figured out, but what do I know since I'm an "idiot" (name calling is alway mature).

What can I say, second guessing everyone else with the benefit of hind sight annoys me.
 
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Seems like you would be better off starting a thread titled The Fine Art of Starting a Dumb Ass thread, since you seem to have a lot of experience at that.
 
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I hadn't realized that people were serious about this whole "Gruden or bust" mentality. Calm down guys, all the names we're hearing are good coaches.
 
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Ignoring the obvious and attacking anyone who doesn't fall in line has been the calling card of a very vocal segment of this fan base for over a decade.

First, it was Fulmer just needs to give Sanders more time. Then it became Clawson is the answer. Then it became it was Clawson's fault, not Fulmers. Fulmer just needs more time, we shouldn't fire him. Then it became Lane is a great hire. Then it became Dooley is a great hire. Then it became Dooley needs more time. Then it became we should have never fired Fulmer. Now that this coaching search is dragging on, it has become Dave is the man and knows what he is doing.

No way to pass judgement on the new coach or Hart until next season, but I am not overly impressed with the candidates and it seems like other programs are handling this coaching search business better.

A healthy dose of skepticism never hurts.
 
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The entire premise of the opening post is based on message board rumors that are being taken as fact. I think many people on this board need to take a step back and realize that what is happening in this coaching search, in all likelyhood, is not what is being talked about on this board. They are rumors folks, nothing more.
 
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Not a charlie strong fan Oregon?

I don't hate him. In fact, it's odd, if Auburn hired him, I would think it a good hire.

I think he's a solid coach. If we ended up with him after alot of rejections, I think I would be okay with it. But to go after him without even trying to get a Patterson or a Petersen (and supposedly passing on Gruden) just tells me the AD doesn't really want to win, at least not win big or beat our rivals.

Strong seems ike a guy who could win 7 games a season or 9-10 games a season here. But he doesn't seem like a guy who will ever win 12 or beat Saban or win a championship. So it's hard for me to get excited about him.
 
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The entire premise of the opening post is based on message board rumors that are being taken as fact. I think many people on this board need to take a step back and realize that what is happening in this coaching search, in all likelyhood, is not what is being talked about on this board. They are rumors folks, nothing more.
Naw. If someone said it on a message board and cited their "sources", then it must be true.
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The entire premise of the opening post is based on message board rumors that are being taken as fact. I think many people on this board need to take a step back and realize that what is happening in this coaching search, in all likelyhood, is not what is being talked about on this board. They are rumors folks, nothing more.

Show me where I stated any rumor as fact.

I just think it's funny the way this board always relies on the same silly aphorisms to excuse and defend the failures of the people in charge, while these people continue to stick it to them.

Of course, I realize by pointing something like this out, I will be attacked with the sticks and stones of third grade name calling, as if the use of logic and skepticism made me some kind of witch.
 
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So your AD waited until absolute rock bottom before firing your coach, doesn't seem to have a plan in place, and according to most reports ran off the grand slam hire who was interested in the job. Don't worry...

The bolded part is what I was referring to. Please explain what credible sources you are getting this from.
 
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The bolded part is what I was referring to. Please explain what credible sources you are getting this from.

Basilio, Hyams, and another guy (Rucker or Hubbs, don't remember, don't know who either are really) have all said something along the lines of Hart not wanting Gruden or not being as interested in meeting Gruden's demands as the boosters were or simply having other names higher on his list and making those the priority. Either way, it has been reported by all that there was interest from Gruden and less so from Hart.

As for the "doesn't seem to have a plan in place" part, that's obvious. According to all reports, Hart spent the two weeks after the Dooley firing in town, in his office. There was no motion, no reports on actions in looking for a new coach until the end of last week. Since any sane, competent AD would have known long ago that Dooley would need to be fired, it seems very odd to go so long without a coach and without any progress.
 
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