The Golden Age of America and the Greatest Generation

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This is shocking!
In the first instance of a state moving to compensate victims of forced sterilization, a gubernatorial panel in North Carolina voted Tuesday to pay victims of a state eugenics program that forcibly sterilized more than 7,500 people.

The Governor's Eugenics Compensation Task Force, established by Gov. Beverly Perdue in March, voted to pay verified victims $50,000. The payments must still be approved by the Legislature.

At least seven of 33 states that carried out eugenics programs have acknowledged or apologized for the policies, but North Carolina is the first to propose paying compensation. The state's forced-sterilization program, designed to weed out the mentally disabled, criminals and other "undesirables," was in effect from 1929 to 1974. North Carolina formally shut down its discredited Eugenics Board in 1977.

The rate of sterilizations in North Carolina picked up after World War II despite unfavorable comparisons to Nazi eugenics, and peaked in the 1950s. The task force has estimated that between 1,500 and 2,000 sterilization victims are still alive. The state has verified 72 victims.

Impoverished or uneducated African Americans were victimized by many eugenics programs, especially in the South. But the task force found that, although many victims of the North Carolina program were African Americans, the number of Caucasians who were sterilized was even higher.

Forced sterilization worth $50,000, North Carolina panel says - latimes.com
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Other states that had forced sterilization programs through the 1950s: Arizona, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin.

I will gladly take the 'problems' and 'troubles' in the US today over a US that sterilized individuals against their will.
 
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Ah - good old progressives. Or as Thomas Friedman might call them "enlightened dictators". Saving humanity from the mess of individual decision making.
 
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volinbham said:
Ah - good old progressives. Or as Thomas Friedman might call them "enlightened dictators". Saving humanity from the mess of individual decision making.
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I agree that the idea probably came from 'progressives'; however, the implementation came through many states with histories of very 'conservative' legislatures (particularly, in an era where African-Americans did not have the same access to voting as Caucasians): Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and West Virginia.

I would say that for some 'progressives' this was an ideal to create a society that was free of the disabled and criminals; I would also argue that for some 'conservatives' this was simply a way to get rid of 'the blacks'.

This is a stain that should be shared equally by the citizens of those states and the citizens of the US as a whole during that epoch. How is 'forced sterilization' not an obvious violation of individual rights? How is this dark period in America not taught in American History classes across the nation?
 
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volinbham said:
Ah - good old progressives. Or as Thomas Friedman might call them "enlightened dictators". Saving humanity from the mess of individual decision making.
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Nice use of the word trying to label today's progressives with ideals of the 1950s. The theories behind this at the time translate now closest to the ideals of ... not progressives. I'll leave it at that.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Nice use of the word trying to label today's progressives with ideals of the 1950s. The theories behind this at the time translate now closest to the ideals of ... not progressives. I'll leave it at that.
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Actually I was tying it to the progressives of the 20s/30s :hi:

Would disagree with the latter and cite Thomas Friedman again as a prime example. Not saying he advocates sterilization but he does frequently advocate government planners making these grand decisions "for the good of the country".

As TRUT said this fits the agenda of some on both sides.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Nice use of the word trying to label today's progressives with ideals of the 1950s. The theories behind this at the time translate now closest to the ideals of ... not progressives. I'll leave it at that.
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You mean progressives like Obama who cares so much about civil liberties we assassinated an American citizen and passed indefinite detention on his watch?
 
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I am condoning the actions taken in the OP's article, but some people should not be allowed to procreate.
 
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