The idiot Perry..

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WesternKyVol

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won't get out of the race. He's probably the worst candidate I have ever seen for PotUS and he is just siphoning off conservative votes making a path for Romney the poser.
 
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Agree. He doesn't have a chance. I guess he has a few million left that he wants to burn.
 
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I'm not sure what he's doing unless his goal is to stay in so he can screw with Romney in the debates. Maybe he actually thinks santorum will get knocked down and things will cycle back to him.
 
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WesternKyVol said:
won't get out of the race. He's probably the worst candidate I have ever seen for PotUS and he is just siphoning off conservative votes making a path for Romney the poser.
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Who will be losing more votes to Perry?
Santorum, Paul or Gingrich?

Which do you consider the most conservative of the three?

Have you decided for whom you will vote in the primary?

FWIW, I heard some talk show host say that for every vote they received in Iowa,
Romney spent $156,
Paul spent $104 and
Santorum spent $21.

I assumed that didn't include pac money.
 
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gsvol said:
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Who will be losing more votes to Perry?
Santorum, Paul or Gingrich?

Which do you consider the most conservative of the three?

Have you decided for whom you will vote in the primary?

FWIW, I heard some talk show host say that for every vote they received in Iowa,
Romney spent $156,
Paul spent $104 and
Santorum spent $21.

I assumed that didn't include pac money.
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IMO, Santorum and Gingrich would both stand to gain from Perry's departure. For the record, Perry spent something like $458 per vote. He and Romney spent roughly the same amount total.

I like all three of them better than Perry and Romney. They all have their issues. Paul is absolutely unelectable although I think he would be by far the best man for the job right now. Santorum seems whiny and not like a leader, however, he seems to be finding his voice a little bit. Gingrich, for all his baggage, is my personal favorite because he cares about, thinks deeply about, and articulates the conservative perspective on the issues. Also, I always root for the Republicans to nominate the best "political athlete." (I wanted Huckabee in 2008.) But they never do. I would pull the lever for Gingrich right now. (Unfortunately, I'm living in Virginia.)
 
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If Perry wins the nomination - it proves people aren't serious about getting Obama out of office.
 
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KiffinKiller said:
If Perry wins the nomination - it proves people aren't serious about getting Obama out of office.
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One could make the argument that, with so many more attractive and exciting candidates out there for the GOP nomination than Romney, that have all taken a pass on 2012, that the sentiment in a lot of circles is that Obama is likely to win reelection and its better to look to 2016.
 
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lawgator1 said:
One could make the argument that, with so many more attractive and exciting candidates out there for the GOP nomination than Romney, that have all taken a pass on 2012, that the sentiment in a lot of circles is that Obama is likely to win reelection and its better to look to 2016.
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which is completely ridiculous. Any competent GOP candidate should be able to beat Obama handily
 
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utvolpj said:
which is completely ridiculous. Any competent GOP candidate should be able to beat Obama handily
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Then where are the Christies, the Jeb Bush's, the Jindal's, etc.?

The leading candidate can't garner more than a quarter of the vote in Iowa, South Carolina, and on and on.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Then where are the Christies, the Jeb Bush's, the Jindal's, etc.?

The leading candidate can't garner more than a quarter of the vote in Iowa, South Carolina, and on and on.
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you're assuming they want to run and be Pres. Obama is as vulnerable as an incumbent can be
 
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utvolpj said:
you're assuming they want to run and be Pres. Obama is as vulnerable as an incumbent can be
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Despite all of the free press and discussion that Romney is getting, and despite the fact that the economy continues to languish, polls show them pretty much even. And Obama hasn't started campaigning, yet and has a ton of $ ready to put into the contest.

Whoever the GOP nominee is, he's going to be saddled with this Congress and the ongoing pissing contest between Boehner and Cantor.

You are dreaming if you think its going to be easy to beat Obama.
 
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obama can't run on his record, unless you're a devout socialist and love all the power grabbing. he would get wasted in debates by a conservative gop, as bad as newt is, he would blow obama away in the debates.
 
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joevol320 said:
obama can't run on his record, unless you're a devout socialist, he would get wasted in debates by a conservative gop. as bad as newt is, he would blow obama away in the debates.
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I would love to see Newt get nominated, if only because of the entertainment value over the summer.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Despite all of the free press and discussion that Romney is getting, and despite the fact that the economy continues to languish, polls show them pretty much even. And Obama hasn't started campaigning, yet and has a ton of $ ready to put into the contest.

Whoever the GOP nominee is, he's going to be saddled with this Congress and the ongoing pissing contest between Boehner and Cantor.

You are dreaming if you think its going to be easy to beat Obama.
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He will not be able to beat the hope and change drum this time around. He will have to run on his record and he has done nothing but lie and blame other people, he's done.
 
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Even Obama said if the economy is not fixed in 3 years he would be a one term president. I found something I actually agree with him on.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Despite all of the free press and discussion that Romney is getting, and despite the fact that the economy continues to languish, polls show them pretty much even. And Obama hasn't started campaigning, yet and has a ton of $ ready to put into the contest.
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that's because Romney sucks. Your guy just isn't getting it done and the GOP is floundering to find an alternative. It's like watching 2 teams that just don't seem to want to win
 
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joevol320 said:
obama can't run on his record, unless you're a devout socialist and love all the power grabbing. he would get wasted in debates by a conservative gop, as bad as newt is, he would blow obama away in the debates.
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Just a question: what has Obama done that is more socialist than GWB?

I am a fan of neither; however, GWB was hardly pro-capitalism. The divide seems to be less about 'socialism' and 'nationalism' and more of an issue of which socialist programs to support. GOP has no problem with no-bid war contracts, pumping federal money into local education, bailing out investment firms, etc. Yet, the GOP goes ballistic when Obama wants to use federal money for healthcare (why should federal funds be used for education but not healthcare? Is such a stance consistent?), the environment, and the auto industry (again, why is it okay for Bush, McCain, and Republicans in Congress to bail out one industry but not another?).

In other issues, both Obama and GWB have been hawkish to the point of warmongering.

The only fundamental difference between Obama and GWB is their stance re: abortion and homosexuals. The same can be said for Obama vs. Santorum.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Then where are the Christies, the Jeb Bush's, the Jindal's, etc.?

The leading candidate can't garner more than a quarter of the vote in Iowa, South Carolina, and on and on.
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Christie - new on the scene. Not personally ready.

Jeb Bush - far too soon for another Bush

Jinhdal - still out of favor; no stronger than existing group.
 
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GAVol said:
I'm not sure what he's doing unless his goal is to stay in so he can screw with Romney in the debates. Maybe he actually thinks santorum will get knocked down and things will cycle back to him.
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Actually, it may be Santorum he is messing with the most.

Apparently his PACs had already locked up a considerable amount of air time in NH - Santorum is frozen out of the media buy unless Perry pulls the ad reservations.

I think Perry is more likely to take Santorum votes in SC than Romney votes which by default helps Romney.

If anything, I'd look into whether or not Team Romney asked Team Perry to hang in there :whistling:
 
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If we (the GOP) aren't going to win then we should definitely nominate Gingrich. At least he would successfully articulate conservative principles.
 
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