The myth that Dan Mullen is a great coach

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Rankings from 247

Georgia - 5* - 14 4* - 46

Alabama - 5* - 10 4* - 57

Florida - 5* - 1 4* - 38

TN. - 5* - 4 4* - 31

So really, the question is why aren’t you better Georgia. You’re the most talented team in the SEC

Dawgs are currently #6.
Top 1 loss team.
2017 SECChamps.
2017 played for the Natty.
2018 SECEast Champs.

Underperforming? Hardly. Better question, why do TN and FL not recruit better? Until they do, there will continue to be great disparity between the haves and have-nots in the SEC.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Everyone?

He’s obviously not paying attention to my constant Mullen bashing

 

[Jax_Vol]

He’s obviously not paying attention to my constant Mullen bashing

Yeah, this dawg is not paying attention to your ways.

 

[ETV]

Dawgs are currently #6.
Top 1 loss team.
2017 SECChamps.
2017 played for the Natty.
2018 SECEast Champs.

Underperforming? Hardly. Better question, why do TN and FL not recruit better? Until they do, there will continue to be great disparity between the haves and have-nots in the SEC.

Did kirby hand out rings for the 2018 accomplishments?

 

[RDU VOL#14]

That bolded part of your statement is what a ton of people on these boards are either unable or unwilling to do.

I agree.

Everyone needs to say out loud. “Mississippi State was ranked #1.”

Then think about what you said and let that sink in.

 

[miket4god]

Know why? It’s because he isn’t a good enough coach to even get his team in position to do it. He’s mediocre.

yeah, gotta get to the game before you can choke it away.

 

[05_never_again]

I agree.

Everyone needs to say out loud. “Mississippi State was ranked #1.”

Then think about what you said and let that sink in.

Mullen also sent them to 8 bowl games in 9 years (only missed a bowl in his first season). In the entire history of their program before that, they had only been to 13. I know starting in the 90s about half of CFB goes to a bowl, but they had only been to 7 bowl games total from 1991-2008.

Miss St has a .352 winning percentage all-time in conference play (196-367-13). Mullen went .458 (33-39), and in an SEC West that was probably the greatest division the sport had ever seen during that time. They had to play LSU, Auburn, and Alabama every single year - each of those teams either won or played for titles during the time he was there. Their big in-state rival had a run of great play during that same time.

I don't know if he's going to have Urban Meyer-like success at Florida, but what he did at Miss St is nothing short of incredible. The fact that people love to s**t on what he did there doesn't say much about the CFB knowledge on this site.

 

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I just knew this cornball would come out the woodwork after the Florida game lol.
Once again, congratulations to Georgia...They won the game, (despite some "interesting" officiating...or lack thereof) and their fans should be proud...I realize Mark Richt 2.0 puts all of his eggs in this basket, do to the absolute humiliations he suffered as a player...But for Georgia fans sake, let's hope he doesn't have another South Carolina.

 

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Did kirby hand out rings for the 2018 accomplishments?

They all got participation ribbons....

 

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I see numerous people pointing out how superior Mullen is when it comes to coaching as compared to Kirby.

Kirby Smart is 3-0 vs. Dan Mullen

2017: 31-3
2018: 36-17
2019: 24-17

If you want to count the days of each being a DC and OC, add a lot more losses for Mullen as his O at Florida/MSU beat Kirby’s D one time.

In terms of recruiting, it isn’t close. Mullen can’t recruit while Kirby is Top 5 in the country. That’s why there’s such a talent disparity.

Dan Mullen is also 5-19 against Top 25 teams.

Mullen is a mediocre coach that is riding off a half season of success with Dak Prescott.

I don’t think he beats us once as head coach at Florida. I think Kirby reels off a Spurrier/90s run against Mullen.

Kirby is Mullen/Florida’s daddy.

5-19 vs top 10
Record vs. Top 25 opponents: 11-35

And those who think that he can make adjustments at half, he is 12-41 when trailing at half. I’m not sure how that’s even possible.

 

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5-19 vs top 10
Record vs. Top 25 opponents: 11-35

And those who think that he can make adjustments at half, he is 12-41 when trailing at half. I’m not sure how that’s even possible.

Dan is 4-3, vs. the top 25 at UF so far with mostly Jim McElwain's recruits...Mississippi State is one of the absolute worst jobs in America, not just the SEC, and he had them consistently competitive in the toughest Division in college football, now look where they are...That's why I laugh and pay no serious mind to any nimrod who talks about Dan's record vs. the top 25 or the fact that he never won a division while at Starkville Tech...Like no kidding, no one EVER won consistently at Mississippi State before Dan got there (Someone say Jackie Sherrill so I can laugh at you.) and no one ever will again...Georgia is a mountain he needs to climb, no doubt about it, but to point to his OVERALL top 10-25 record, without the caveat that it was mostly done at one of the worst power 5 jobs in the country...Is either willfully deceptive, or unbelievably ignorant.

 

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Dan is 4-3, vs. the top 25 at UF so far with mostly Jim McElwain's recruits...Mississippi State is one of the absolute worse jobs in America, not just the SEC, and he had them consistently competitive in the toughest Division in college football, now look where they are...That's why I laugh and pay no serious mind to any nimrod who talks about Dan's record vs. the top 25 or the fact that he never won a division while at Starkville Tech...Like no kidding, no one EVER won consistently at Mississippi State before Dan got there (Someone say Jackie Sherrill so I can laugh at you.) and no one ever will again...Georgia is a mountain he needs to climb, no doubt about it, but to point to his OVERALL top 10-25 record, without the caveat that it was mostly done at one of the worst power 5 jobs in the country...Is either willfully deceptive, or unbelievably ignorant.

Why can’t someone say Jackie Sherrill? If you tenure vs tenure, Sherrill had a Better record in his first 9 years than Mullen did (as Mullen was there 9) yet Sherrill was in the top 4 in the West over half his career whereas Mullen only did it once. Once in 9 was he better than 4th in the West so I will concede Bama is stronger than the Sherrill days but that doesn’t excuse finishing 4th or worse each year. This year could be the first year Mullen doesn’t have at least 3 losses, guess we will see if he can win out.

Again, I do think he is a good coach but think he could do more if he hired a few assistants that were better on the recruiting trail. 10 wins is great but think that’s about his ceiling but think he could be championship level if he had too 5 classes, I’m not alone in that thought, virtually every gator writer wrote the same thing since the loss I have for the past year.

I think he finishes this year well, let’s see how next year looks. Has he recruited well enough at DL, WR, CB to fill the voids of the guys leaving? That’s my point, have to keep the cupboard full...

 

[whodatvol]

You can’t win big games if your quarterback is the biggest threat to run the ball unless you have Tebow and Urban. I think Mullen knew he was whipped since they never got all running reverses and such, Florida wins game after game with special teams, refs and reverses

 

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Why can’t someone say Jackie Sherrill? If you tenure vs tenure, Sherrill had a Better record in his first 9 years than Mullen did (as Mullen was there 9) yet Sherrill was in the top 4 in the West over half his career whereas Mullen only did it once. Once in 9 was he better than 4th in the West so I will concede Bama is stronger than the Sherrill days but that doesn’t excuse finishing 4th or worse each year. This year could be the first year Mullen doesn’t have at least 3 losses, guess we will see if he can win out.

Again, I do think he is a good coach but think he could do more if he hired a few assistants that were better on the recruiting trail. 10 wins is great but think that’s about his ceiling but think he could be championship level if he had too 5 classes, I’m not alone in that thought, virtually every gator writer wrote the same thing since the loss I have for the past year.

I think he finishes this year well, let’s see how next year looks. Has he recruited well enough at DL, WR, CB to fill the voids of the guys leaving? That’s my point, have to keep the cupboard full...

Sherrill never consistently won, and was known as one of the absolute slimiest people in the history of college football.

I really want these Georgia fans to keep up that energy they have in a couple years when Mark Richt Jr. and his lame, wannabe Nick Saban schtick starts to wear thin because he doesn't actually win anything.

Dan is doing fine...He's bringing his players in, and he's starting to reverse the horrible trends set in motion by the previous two staffs, but Rome wasn't built in a day.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Based on the final scores, Mullen's gotten Florida closer to UGA each season. Let's see what happens next year.

Good point.

 

[mkil5]

Why can’t someone say Jackie Sherrill? If you tenure vs tenure, Sherrill had a Better record in his first 9 years than Mullen did (as Mullen was there 9) yet Sherrill was in the top 4 in the West over half his career whereas Mullen only did it once. Once in 9 was he better than 4th in the West so I will concede Bama is stronger than the Sherrill days but that doesn’t excuse finishing 4th or worse each year. This year could be the first year Mullen doesn’t have at least 3 losses, guess we will see if he can win out.

Again, I do think he is a good coach but think he could do more if he hired a few assistants that were better on the recruiting trail. 10 wins is great but think that’s about his ceiling but think he could be championship level if he had too 5 classes, I’m not alone in that thought, virtually every gator writer wrote the same thing since the loss I have for the past year.

I think he finishes this year well, let’s see how next year looks. Has he recruited well enough at DL, WR, CB to fill the voids of the guys leaving? That’s my point, have to keep the cupboard full...

This is slightly misleading as Texas A&M joined the league in 2012, Sherrill had a 6 team division.

 

[Lawrence Wright]

This is slightly misleading as Texas A&M joined the league in 2012, Sherrill had a 6 team division.

The league also did away with two permanent cross division opponents, due to Mississippi State winning the West in 1998 without having to face UF, UT or Georgia in the regular season.

The schedule changes didn’t go in effect until five years later, but you can easily argue Sherrill had a much easier path at MSU than Mullen. And as someone else stated, Sherrill was shady as all get out.

 

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The league also did away with two permanent cross division opponents, due to Mississippi State winning the West in 1998 without having to face UF, UT or Georgia in the regular season.

The schedule changes didn’t go in effect until five years later, but you can easily argue Sherrill had a much easier path at MSU than Mullen. And as someone else stated, Sherrill was shady as all get out.

I’m not saying he is or isn’t, he was just won a lawsuit against the NCAA bc (according to him) he was wrongfully accused of providing a car to a recruit. NCAA could never prove it. But, it’s MSU, cheating is what MS schools do. Mississippi schools are corrupt. The NCAA DID prove that Mississippi State paid Leo Lewis 20,000 to sign and they DID prove that MSU offered Cam Newton 180,000 dollars to sign. Who was the coach at MSU that offered Cam and paid Leo?

Further proof that NCAA is more corrupt than any school, they put MSU on probation for alleged car yet was so desperate to bring OM down years later, they don’t punish Lewis or MSU as long as they will testify. Further, NCAA did nothing to MSU after they acknowledged the offer to Cecil Newton, Cam investigation was the biggest sham in history.

 

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Sherrill never consistently won, and was known as one of the absolute slimiest people in the history of college football.

I really want these Georgia fans to keep up that energy they have in a couple years when Mark Richt Jr. and his lame, wannabe Nick Saban schtick starts to wear thin because he doesn't actually win anything.



Dan is doing fine...He's bringing his players in, and he's starting to reverse the horrible trends set in motion by the previous two staffs, but Rome wasn't built in a day.

I really want these Georgia fans to keep up that energy they have in a couple years when Mark Richt Jr. and his lame, wannabe Nick Saban schtick starts to wear thin because he doesn't actually win anything.

He's already won. SECChamp. Played for the Natty, remember?

Dan is doing fine...He's bringing his players in, and he's starting to reverse the horrible trends set in motion by the previous two staffs, but Rome wasn't built in a day.

Aaaah....the old "Rome wasn't built in a day" schtick. How long did it take to build Rome? Meanwhile, Kirby's Dawgs are running circles around the Gators. Don't worry about UGA...they're doing fine.

 

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I really want these Georgia fans to keep up that energy they have in a couple years when Mark Richt Jr. and his lame, wannabe Nick Saban schtick starts to wear thin because he doesn't actually win anything.

He's already won. SECChamp. Played for the Natty, remember?

Dan is doing fine...He's bringing his players in, and he's starting to reverse the horrible trends set in motion by the previous two staffs, but Rome wasn't built in a day.

Aaaah....the old "Rome wasn't built in a day" schtick. How long did it take to build Rome? Meanwhile, Kirby's Dawgs are running circles around the Gators. Don't worry about UGA...they're doing fine.

Leave it to Georgia fans to pump up ALMOST winning something as "success" lol...Guess that's what constitutes as success in the Georgia fan-sphere.

 

[05_never_again]

Why can’t someone say Jackie Sherrill? If you tenure vs tenure, Sherrill had a Better record in his first 9 years than Mullen did (as Mullen was there 9) yet Sherrill was in the top 4 in the West over half his career whereas Mullen only did it once. Once in 9 was he better than 4th in the West so I will concede Bama is stronger than the Sherrill days but that doesn’t excuse finishing 4th or worse each year. This year could be the first year Mullen doesn’t have at least 3 losses, guess we will see if he can win out.

Again, I do think he is a good coach but think he could do more if he hired a few assistants that were better on the recruiting trail. 10 wins is great but think that’s about his ceiling but think he could be championship level if he had too 5 classes, I’m not alone in that thought, virtually every gator writer wrote the same thing since the loss I have for the past year.

I think he finishes this year well, let’s see how next year looks. Has he recruited well enough at DL, WR, CB to fill the voids of the guys leaving? That’s my point, have to keep the cupboard full...

The one thing Sherrill had there that Mullen never got was a division title. I'd concede that. I think that has everything to do with the strength of the SEC West in those days than anything else. Sherrill won the West by going 6-2 in conference play in 1998. Very, very difficult to win a West title with 2 losses in the era Mullen coached in. Mullen did go 6-2 in conference play in 2014 but it wasn't enough.

Also, Sherrill had a bunch of turd seasons there as well. 93, 95, 2001-03. Also got them slapped with sanctions after he left. Mullen's worst season was his very first one (5-7), then he at least made a bowl every season after that.

 

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Leave it to Georgia fans to pump up ALMOST winning something as "success" lol...Guess that's what constitutes as success in the Georgia fan-sphere.

Gator coach has proven himself not-yet-ready for prime time. He had 1 (one) ten win season in 9 at State. Why didn't anyone hire him? Because he had Urban's funk all over his greasy self. UF took a chance because Kirby ran off the shark humper mid-season. All the SEC fans I talk to want the Gators keep him. Give him another year. It takes a long time to build a Rome.
He's the Paul Johnson of the SEC and will ALWAYS be Kirby's lap dog.

 

[wmcovol]

sadly, this medicore coach is beating Tennessee like a rented mule.

 

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Gator coach has proven himself not-yet-ready for prime time. He had 1 (one) ten win season in 9 at State. Why didn't anyone hire him? Because he had Urban's funk all over his greasy self. UF took a chance because Kirby ran off the shark humper mid-season. All the SEC fans I talk to want the Gators keep him. Give him another year. It takes a long time to build a Rome.
He's the Paul Johnson of the SEC and will ALWAYS be Kirby's lap dog.

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Is Dan elite? who knows...Maybe, maybe not, only time will tell...Tell me what Mark Ric...Err...Kirby Smart is?...Sell me that he's an elite coach and not just someone who had the privilege of "running" Nick Saban's defense...Convince me that he's not just a Mr. February like Mack Brown who never wins meaningful games, I'd be eager to hear the argument.

Again I'll admit, his team full of 5 stars has beaten Jim McElwain's recruits the past two years (This year, again, with "interesting" officiating.), and that's a mountain Dan still needs to climb...But to start a thread about "the myth that Dan Mullen is a good coach" when Kirby Smart has an entire roster full of 5 star players, yet is 0 for the SEC West on the road, and lost to a putrid South Carolina team at home, is just plain moronic.

 

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The one thing Sherrill had there that Mullen never got was a division title. I'd concede that. I think that has everything to do with the strength of the SEC West in those days than anything else. Sherrill won the West by going 6-2 in conference play in 1998. Very, very difficult to win a West title with 2 losses in the era Mullen coached in. Mullen did go 6-2 in conference play in 2014 but it wasn't enough.

Also, Sherrill had a bunch of turd seasons there as well. 93, 95, 2001-03. Also got them slapped with sanctions after he left. Mullen's worst season was his very first one (5-7), then he at least made a bowl every season after that.

I’ll concede it was easier in Sherrill’s day, that’s why I didnt even list him winning the west vs Mullen not. Mullen did go bowling but a few 7-6, 6-7 seasons to get there. You’re rewarded now for being average with bowls. I do wonder how much the NCAA settled with Jackie, the original lawsuit was in the millions and here we are 15 years later?