The "no respect" card

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jakez4ut

jakez4ut

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i've seen thread after thread talking about polls and who should be ranked where, thread after thread of talking about why ESPN isn't talking us up as much as we think they should....

And i find myself thinking....despite the perception that we aren't getting "enough love", when was the last time the bball team got ANY love from ANYONE?

I think we need to keep this stuff in perspective folks. It's not like no one is noticing what's going on in Ktown this year. I've heard more about UT bball on a national level than i've heard, well, EVER. is it enough? well, debatable. But keep in mind, this team hasn't DONE anything yet. they are still in the middle of this great run.

Most bracket pronjections have us anywhere from a 1-4 seed. before this season started, we just wanted to get to the NIT, hopefully.

Most of the experts have at least mentioned CBP as a national coach of the year candidate, if not front runner. before this season started, some people were wondering if firing BUzz was the right thing to do.

We are going to be ranked in the top 10 in both polls this week. Before the season started, who ever waited for the bball rankings to come out? no one, that's who, at least for Vol fans anyway.



All i'm saying is take it for what it is. we win the SEC reg. season and/or Tourney, and actually get that 2-3 seed, then we'll get all the press we could ever want. But until then, i like the off the radar mentality of this team. As long as we aren't mentioned like UNC, Duke, Oh. St, Mich. St. INdiana, UF etc....they are the favorites, we're the underdogs. Everybody loves an underdog. Esp. CBP.

i understand why your frustrated, and i tuned in Saturday and Sunday looking for some highlights too, but oh well. it'll take care of itself once they start winning....keep up the good work, and Go Vols... :rock:
 
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I just think if a group is going to say that these two teams (TX and UF) are #6 & 7 respectively, and you have beaten both those teams, along with having the same number of losses, it would be reasonable to expect to be considered #5. I guess logic doesn't mean much... this is only pertaining to where these teams are at THIS point in THIS season. What you did last year shouldn't matter.
 
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and the ap has us a 8 and uf at 10...

and we're 10 in the coaches...

teams w/no respect aren't in the top 10...

go vols.
 
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(jakez4ut @ Feb 13 said:
and the ap has us a 8 and uf at 10...

and we're 10 in the coaches...

teams w/no respect aren't in the top 10...

go vols.
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I do like that perspective. Top 10 is top 10, who cares where you land? I'll take it. Thanks for the Kool-Aid fill up jake. :biggrin2: :thumbsup:
 
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(rwemyss @ Feb 13 said:
I just think if a group is going to say that these two teams (TX and UF) are #6 & 7 respectively, and you have beaten both those teams, along with having the same number of losses, it would be reasonable to expect to be considered #5. I guess logic doesn't mean much... this is only pertaining to where these teams are at THIS point in THIS season. What you did last year shouldn't matter.
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Here's something else to consider:

TX played Duke, they lost, but still played them which helps their rpi. TX also beat memphis. We lost to memphis. we don't play either team again in the reg. season. And tx was highly ranked to begin with....and losing to TN now doesn't look too bad does it???

UF, as LG pointed out to me in another thread, beat then ranked Wake Forrest and Syracuse in a pre season tourney, heavyweights, supposedly, from THE TWO POWER CONFERENCES....they lost to us at home, no real sin there to lose on the road in conf., and again, that loss doesn't look to bad now does it?

the same will be true if we lose to UF: top ten team on the road in conf. no sin there to lose that game. Though i have a feeling we'd get punished in the polls a little more for it because that game is late in the season, and it will be on TV somewhere, and i'm sure the highlights from that game will be aired.....
 
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(rwemyss @ Feb 13 said:
I do like that perspective. Top 10 is top 10, who cares where you land? I'll take it. Thanks for the Kool-Aid fill up jake. :biggrin2: :thumbsup:
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hey, no sweat, got plenty more where that came from, just wait til football season!!!! I'll keep everybody in stock!!!

Go Vols.
 
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Well, just got back from lunch and read the posts about the rankings and props given to the team and Lofton...guess I can let my flame die a little...GO VOLS...by the way...I agree that if UF beats us, we will drop like flies...
 
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i agree with jake. Tennessee has to keep winning and all else will take care of itself.
 
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(pedigovolfan @ Feb 13 said:
Well, just got back from lunch and read the posts about the rankings and props given to the team and Lofton...guess I can let my flame die a little...GO VOLS...by the way...I agree that if UF beats us, we will drop like flies...
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yeah, it's almost like they finally had to put us up there...i do think there is a feeling that this bubble is going to burst, the only question is when and where?

If UF comes out and hammers us, i think we'll take a pretty good hit in the polls....i hate to say that we MUST win that game, but it would be nice just to qwell that kind of thought process...

But then again, i'll go back to the whole resume....it's no sin to lose to a top 10 on the road in your own conf. Esp. if you've already beaten them!!!....it's jus the timing of that game that bugs me....
 
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People keep waiting for the bubble to burst. From what I've seen it's not a bubble. We may to lose to FL or KY again but this team is for real. Think we won't lose those games. We have proven ourselves and we shouldn't drop hard if we lose one game to anyone. We've earned that.
 
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yeah, i have to think that's right...splitting with UK and UF is not going to kill you. it's just hard to beleive that this team is on the cusp of doing something so great, so quick.....you know? it can't be real? at some point we're going to get dragged back down to earth right?

but you watch 'em play, and they keep coming thru....it's really amazing. and after what i've seen thus far, there's no reason to think that they can't keep it up...
 
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which at this point i think is doable. Seriously, the only team we may have a split with is UF....sweeping all other comers in the East. That would be something.
 
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I would love nothing more than to sweep UF and UK in the same season, but sweeping the east with the exception of UF would be nothing short of miraculous...2 down, 3 to go....GO VOLS
 
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I agree that it's not a bubble. We have a hard stretch to finish and 4-2 down that stretch would be solid.

Losing to UF shouldn't have a major impact - clearly them losing to South Carolina didn't have much of an impact.
 
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very true....very true...got swept by USC and still in top 10...not too shabby huh?
 
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Assuming all other things being equal, if you lose to UF at UF it won't hurt you much at all for same logic cited above by jake. It would be on the aord at Top 10 team. But beat thenm and I think it helps you a ton come seeding time. Could easily be the difference between a 3 and a 2.

Course, with the annual 2 seed jinx, not so sure you want it...
 
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jinx? what jinx? we have no experience at that....

of course, really, when you get down to it, if we continue to win, and beat UF at UF, win the SEC reg. season, and have a good showing in the SEC tourney, we could be a #1 seed....hmmm....it's not out of the realm of possibilities...highly unlikely, but not impossible....
 
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(jakez4ut @ Feb 13 said:
jinx? what jinx? we have no experience at that....

of course, really, when you get down to it, if we continue to win, and beat UF at UF, win the SEC reg. season, and have a good showing in the SEC tourney, we could be a #1 seed....hmmm....it's not out of the realm of possibilities...highly unlikely, but not impossible....
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If you win out from here, including SEC tourney sweep and look good doing it, it is indeed possible. But you would for sure have to win the SEC tourney or else forget it because the perception, and I think its right, is that the SEC is a bit down this year.
 
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yeah, that's true...and i don't think that will happen...

I really think we'll wind up a 3-4 seed, when all said and done.
 
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You have some tough games left. You have to go to Alabama and Florida, plus play Kentucky at home next to last game. Think Kentucky won't be gunning for you (and then UF a few days later to end the regular season)? If Kentucky could win one of those games they'd have a much better case at 18 or 19 wins to get into the tournament. At least you get them at home. Florida has to go there last game and got to figure that will be Kentucky's last gasp.

Florida also has to go to Alabama and Arkansas and boy is Arkansas on the bubble. We both get Vandy once more and, again, that could easily be a situation where Vanderbilt can play its way into the Field of 65 with a big name win at the very end.

Face it. Three SEC teams out there on the NCAA bubble and both UT and Florida have them in the last few weeks here. Those teams are going to throw everything at us. I give you guys the edge on schedule at this point but it would not surprise me if both UT and UF had 2-3 more losses, each, coming down the stretch.
 
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me niether...everything you said, is much more realistic, and i agree...

but hey, i figure, what the hell. we weren't even supposed to be in the discussion this late in the season...

the game in G'ville should be a good one....and both KY games will be good as well....
 
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(rwemyss @ Feb 13 said:
I just think if a group is going to say that these two teams (TX and UF) are #6 & 7 respectively, and you have beaten both those teams, along with having the same number of losses, it would be reasonable to expect to be considered #5. I guess logic doesn't mean much... this is only pertaining to where these teams are at THIS point in THIS season. What you did last year shouldn't matter.
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I'd agree with that line of thinking 100% if this was football. Rankings just don't mean much in basketball, as others have said. Barring disaster from hgere on out, the Vols are going to make the NCAA tournament. Being ranked in the top 10 in both polls is just a bonus at this point. Several tough games coming up however.
 
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