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This weekend Bruce Wilkerson, Trey Teague and Bubba Miller were quoted as saying our OL is too over weight. This is why they cannot run block. They cannot pull on Trapping plays or create seams on running plays because they are too fat. Are they on the "Fulmer Diet?"
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Oct 11, 2005 1:21 PM
This weekend Bruce Wilkerson, Trey Teague and Bubba Miller were quoted as saying our OL is too over weight. This is why they cannot run block. They cannot pull on Trapping plays or create seams on running plays because they are too fat. Are they on the "Fulmer Diet?"
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Whether they are too fat or just too slow. The fact is that they have not been respectable on run blocking since the first kickoff of the season. It appears that they haven't been motivated at times. Their timing has been off and their self-discipline has not been what it should be to prevent all those drive stopping penalties.

 
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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Oct 11, 2005 1:49 PM
I thought big was good?
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We are talking about the size of the players.....you made me chuckle :birgits_giggle:
 
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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Oct 11, 2005 1:49 PM
I thought big was good?
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I forgot to say, thanks for the laugh. It was the first smile I have had all day.
 
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Sour size and strenght is a plus if we use a man blocking scheme, here's a cut and paste explanation that may help.

Here's an attempt at the running woes. We use a finesse blocking scheme called zone blocking. In order to get a grasp of this if you have a recording of the game watch the line when we had the ball on our own goal line. Anyway, zone schemes are pretty complicated and depend on evey lineman actually making his predetermined block. The center ususally calls the blocking scheme at the LOS when he sees the defensive formation. With a zone scheme, more time is required to create a hole for the RB. In addition, xone schemes require considerably more "teamwork" and knowing what your line "neighbors" do under certain cirucmstances. Each week, we've had a new mixture of linemen start the game. It has been impossible for these guys to learn how to block "together" as a team. Now, back to the game film. If you have the tape or DVD, watch our slowly developing running play where Riggs takes the hand-off deep in the end zone and pay attention to the chinese firedrill by our blockers. Chris Brown misses his block, Corey Anderson apparently has forgotten the snap count and he GA DL explodes towards Riggs. This is an example of what happens many times on running plays.

So here are my thoughts. With injuries, our OL has been kinda young. Too much thought goes into these intricate themes (sometimes OL aren't as smart as Munoz was), too much time between the snap and the hole, our teamwork hasn't developed with our injury situation, hence this xone blocking strategy has totally backfired on us. I wish and hope the offensive coaches will spend the 2 weeks off and put in the old bulldozer blocking scheme we used until 3 years ago.
 
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Originally posted by KYVolFan@Oct 11, 2005 1:48 PM
Whether they are too fat or just too slow.  The fact is that they have not been respectable on run blocking since the first kickoff of the season.  It appears that they haven't been motivated at times. Their timing has been off and their self-discipline has not been what it should be to prevent all those drive stopping penalties.
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The reason they have not been respectable is because of their big,fat a#*. They cannot move, the rb runs up their back or the dl beats them to the point of attack.
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Oct 11, 2005 3:11 PM
The reason they have not been respectable is because of their big,fat a#*. They cannot move, the rb runs up their back or the dl beats them to the point of attack.
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You are dead wrong. I guess you couldn't understand my post, but I'm not surprised at that.
 
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Sarge you have been warned about name calling of coaches and players. It will no longer be tolerated around here. I agree that our line is not mobile and are much better pass blockers then run blockers. So make your point without calling our kids big fat asses.
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Oct 11, 2005 12:21 PM
This weekend Bruce Wilkerson, Trey Teague and Bubba Miller were quoted as saying our OL is too over weight. This is why they cannot run block. They cannot pull on Trapping plays or create seams on running plays because they are too fat. Are they on the "Fulmer Diet?"
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I haven't studied the tapes to prove it, but it doesn't appear that the blocking on the right side has been good, and based on the mediocre to poor results, I deduce that the blocking by the TE and FBs has been fairly weak, too. They have to be included in this indictment.
 
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Originally posted by blurbman@Oct 11, 2005 10:57 PM
I haven't studied the tapes to prove it, but it doesn't appear that the blocking on the right side has been good, and based on the mediocre to poor results, I deduce that the blocking by the TE and FBs has been fairly weak, too. They have to be included in this indictment.
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Problem is that we ran about 70% of the time out of the spread with no TE or FB on the field.
 
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Watch a replay of the game and focus on the blocking. It's something no one pays attention to during the game; we're all watching the "skill positions."

I did so and it made me ill. Sarge (and a lot of the analysts and callers on the radio) is probably right, here.
 
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Given the weight of our o-line, wouldn't we theoretically have more success running the ball between the tackles rather than off tackle? Seems like Riggs has really liked to bounce outside this year, but he outruns his blocks. Defensive speed is too great to do that, especially when the blockers aren't out there to cover.

 
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Oct 11, 2005 7:03 PM
Sarge you have been warned about name calling of coaches and players. It will no longer be tolerated around here. I agree that our line is not mobile and are much better pass blockers then run blockers. So make your point without calling our kids big fat asses.
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My bad. I can't take anymore of the Sanders stupidity!!! :shakehead: :peace:
 
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Haven't we always had a huge OL? Why is it a problem all of a sudden?
 
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From what a lot of people are saying, they are just not as athletic and mobile as in the past. Big and slow versus big and athletic.
 
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I agree with this 100%.

Are OL is fat. They should be leaner, and stronger, not fatter.
Denver proved a few years ago when they won 2 super bowls with the most dominant running game in the league.
They also had the smallest O-line in the league averaging around 285 lb. Our Oline is too slow and get blown off the ball. I think this is a reflection on the conditioning. They put too much emphasis on size and not on their quickness and strength.
 
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Originally posted by bigdaddy@Oct 11, 2005 1:56 PM
We are talking about the size of the players.....you made me chuckle :birgits_giggle:
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THAT'S what I'M talking about TOO!!!

I thought players were supposed to be big so they could run through folks.


Y'all get your minds outta the gutter!

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Something that furthers this point is that the best OL all season has been Rob Smith. He is really the only one that has been good all season. Guess what, he is one of the smaller OL we have on the team. Size in and of itself is not the problem. Big is good. But, big AT THE COST of speed is bad. What also needs to be taken into account is injuries. Some of our OL have a lack of speed because their ankles and knees are not 100%. That would definately slow them down.
 
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Originally posted by therickbol@Oct 13, 2005 11:00 AM
Something that furthers this point is that the best OL all season has been Rob Smith. He is really the only one that has been good all season. Guess what, he is one of the smaller OL we have on the team. Size in and of itself is not the problem. Big is good. But, big AT THE COST of speed is bad. What also needs to be taken into account is injuries. Some of our OL have a lack of speed because their ankles and knees are not 100%. That would definately slow them down.
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Does this include the groundball snaps he offers to Rick or Eric? They are great for field position, :birgits_giggle:
 
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Originally posted by donsargegolf@Oct 13, 2005 12:47 PM
Does this include the groundball snaps he offers to Rick or Eric? They are great for field position, :birgits_giggle:
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Or the chopping block he got called for to kill a drive against GA. seemed like a lame call though (according to fulmer)
 
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