The Problems with Trans-ideology

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hog88 said:
yes, they most certainly are.

In most states people under 18 can't get a tattoo even with parental consent so it's absolutely ludicrous to allow a child to decide to take medication that will do irreversible changes.
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Puberty blockers are reversible, so this post is based on BS
 
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NashVol11 said:
Much like gay people, trans people don't start being trans at 18, Puberty blockers and hormones aren't "castration and/or genital mutilation"
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I asked you about none of that. I asked about a double mastectomy. Can you not answer?
 
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Vol8188 said:
I asked you about none of that. I asked about a double mastectomy. Can you not answer?
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You're asking about a boogeyman that almost never happens, because you can't make a point without being dishonest, and no I don't have a problem with like .0000000000001% of people having a surgery after consulting with a doctor. The idea that people are just randomly waking up and chopping things up is as dishonest as you always are
 
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NashVol11 said:
You're asking about a boogeyman that almost never happens, because you can't make a point without being dishonest, and no I don't have a problem with like .0000000000001% of people having a surgery after consulting with a doctor. The idea that people are just randomly waking up and chopping things up is as dishonest as you always are
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You don’t believe trans youth have mastectomies before 18? If so, why do you refuse to say it shouldn’t be allowed?
 
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NashVol11 said:
Puberty blockers are reversible, so this post is based on BS
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So you’re say that if a 10 yo XY takes puberty blockers and testosterone for 10’years, then decided to be female, that she’ll be just as furtive, will have the same figure, voice and hair texture that as her twin sister that didn’t receive treatment? I’m betting that’s not the case
 
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Wireless1 said:
So you’re say that if a 10 yo XY takes puberty blockers and testosterone for 10’years, then decided to be female, that she’ll be just as furtive, will have the same figure, voice and hair texture that as her twin sister that didn’t receive treatment? I’m betting that’s not the case
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Look up precocious puberty and make better bets
 
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Vol8188 said:
I’m open to other ideas. Why do you believe some studies have 26% of autistic youth as being transgender?
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Plenty of theories along these lines:

On the other hand, it’s possible that autism is overrepresented among trans youth because autistic people are less concerned with social norms and less likely to bow to social pressures that keep other trans people from coming out. Our ability to study gender dysphoria and diversity is limited by the fact that there are such strong social pressures, starting in early childhood, to conform to gendered expectations. There’s no way of knowing how many people hide their transgender identity, so we can’t know for sure whether studies of openly transgender people are representing the full picture at this time.
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@NashVol11 in this country girls as young as 12 get their breast removed, take puberty blockers, and testosterone (which does chemically castrate many of them, irreversibly).

Do you believe mutilation and castration to be decisions 12 year olds are capable of making
 
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Vol8188 said:
So you believe the real rate of transgenderism is likely closer to 26% and the autistic people are the only ones open enough to embrace it?
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Is this what you are calling "26%"? Sounds like it's 5-6%, shocking 8188 was full of it (again)

These studies have identified that between 4.8% and 26% of individuals who present at damn clinics have an autism diagnosis based on several different criteria. The largest of these studies (N = 53224, and N = 54025) identified that 6.0% and 4.8% respectively of these individuals are autistic, based on review of clinical and medical records.
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NashVol11 said:
Is this what you are calling "26%"? Sounds like it's 5-6%, shocking 8188 was full of it (again)
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IDK if full of it is the right phrase, rather I simply got the two backwards. It's not that up to 26% of autistic people are trans, but rather that up to 26% of trans people are autistic. So that means roughly 1 out of every 4 children castrated either chemically or surgically are likely to be autistic.

Do you think that helps your argument in some way?

autism.org

Gender Discomfort and Autism

Dr. Wenn Lawson shares perspective on his experience with gender discomfort and autism, calling for compassion, education, and understanding.
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CobbVol said:
What are the odds, two transgender kids in this woman's household. In addition, both have attempted suicide.

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That video is insane. Weirdo woman with (of course) hyphenated last name says " since i said i feared it, both my children have attempted suicide. There is so much more i am passionate about, but I'll stop there." Smiling from ear to ear and glances around room looking for approval?!? If my wife were speaking about even 1 of our children attempting (allegedly) to kill themself...theres nothing on Earth that would make her smile in that situation.

Nothing. Period. Losing a child is the worst thing that can happen to a person. A fate so terrible, there isnt even a word for it in the English language. Lose a spouse you're a widow/widower. Lose your parents? You're an orphan. Lose a child and ??? There isn't a word for that. It's THE worst thing a person can lose. Yet this weirdo is talking about not 1, but BOTH of her kids attempting (allegedly) to do just that.

Looks like the nuts didnt fall far from the tree. That whole family apprently needs mental help badly. Sad that instead of helping her kids with getting treatment for their gender dysphoria, she chose to mutilate their gentitals with drugs and/or surgeries while playing along with their delusions. Yay...liberal California lifestyles. I cannot imagine why people are leaving there in droves. God help Colorado, Nevada, and Austin TX
 
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Factitious disorder is a serious mental disorder in which someone deceives others by appearing sick, by purposely getting sick or by self-injury. Factitious disorder also can happen when family members or caregivers falsely present others, such as children, as being ill, injured or impaired.

Factitious disorder symptoms can range from mild (slight exaggeration of symptoms) to severe (previously called Munchausen syndrome). The person may make up symptoms or even tamper with medical tests to convince others that treatment, such as high-risk surgery, is needed.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Look up precocious puberty and make better bets
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I don’t need to look it up, I have identical twin grand daughters, one was born slightly smaller due to umbilical cord issue. She and her sister look identical but she continues to be slightly smaller. You can’t tell me you can pause development then later “fast forward” and things will be as they were without the pause.
I know what I know
 
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Wireless1 said:
I don’t need to look it up, I have identical twin grand daughters, one was born slightly smaller due to umbilical cord issue. She and her sister look identical but she continues to be slightly smaller. You can’t tell me you can pause development then later “fast forward” and things will be as they were without the pause.
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Development in the womb isn’t puberty. Puberty blockers are a medical treatment for plenty of non-trans people that turn out fine
 
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The thing he’s intentionally failing to mention is that puberty blockers are often used with cross sex hormones, which do cause chemical castration.

If anyone in this thread has ever taken test replacement therapy, one of the first things they tell you is to go to a sperm bank before starting therapy because you may become infertile
 
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Vol8188 said:
The thing he’s intentionally failing to mention is that puberty blockers are often used with cross sex hormones, which do cause chemical castration.

If anyone in this thread has ever taken test replacement therapy, one of the first things they tell you is to go to a sperm bank before starting therapy because you may become infertile
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How often? What percentage of people under 18 take cross sex hormones?
 
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NashVol11 said:
Development in the womb isn’t puberty. Puberty blockers are a medical treatment for plenty of non-trans people that turn out fine
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SMH, you’re going to defend your position I just hope others don’t believe as you do that after years of puberty blockers and opposite sex hormones that things can magically be reversed and these children who are now adults will have the body they’d have had without the treatments
 
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Vol8188 said:
Of the general population? Very few. Idk how that’s a positive argument for you.

“Who cares if it’s castrating kids, as long as it’s only castrating the gay ones!”
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You said often, which sounded like a lie and apparently was. Very few are even on puberty blockers, much less hormones, and the tiny number on hormones already used puberty blockers while consulting with medical professionals the entire way. Talking about “intentionally failing to mention” things was as disingenuous as always from you
 
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NashVol11 said:
You said often, which sounded like a lie and apparently was. Very few are even on puberty blockers, much less hormones, and the tiny number on hormones already used puberty blockers while consulting with medical professionals the entire way. Talking about “intentionally failing to mention” things was as disingenuous as always from you
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What did I fail to mention? That they were “consulting with medical professionals”? Did you think I was claiming trans kids are buying estradiol off the street?
 
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