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The real problem with Dooley is that he is not a leader of men.

I've really wanted him to win.
I think he has made some good hires (Sam Pittman, Jay Graham), which have addressed some big concerns (i.e. the running game)
I think he has instituted some discipline (kicking off Darren Myles, Jr, Janzen Jackson, Montori Hughes, Cam Clear, Da'Rick Rogers, etc..).
I think he has recruited well (in some respects), given the circumstances of a down program and a hot SEC (AJ Johnson, Curt Maggit, Cordarelle Patterson, Brian Randolph, Daniel McCullers, Marlin Lane, Antonio Richardson, Pig Howard, etc...)

But Dooley lacks what is essential to being a great head coach: the ability to make young men believe...in themselves, in their teammates, in the gameplan.

As I listen to his post-game pressers each week, I ask myself, "If I were in college again and playing football, would I walk away confident after spending time with this man?" Easy answer: No.

That's what's missing. Dooley will NEVER be a good head coach if he can't inspire players to play with confidence.

And judged on that basis, he has been a colossal failure.

I hate to say it. I really do. I've wanted to believe in him.

I think he has worked hard. He's really wanted to win. He's overseen the construction of an amazing new football facility.

But he just doesn't have what it takes to lead a group of young men to play their best and exceed their own expectations for themselves.

All the great coaches are men who get the best/most out of their players. But Dooley has wasted talent.

Not because he doesn't try. Or doesn't care. (And he should be given the dignity of one who really has loved being a Vol and working to re-establish our winning tradition)

He just doesn't know how to look a young man in the eye and get the best out of them.

That's what great coaching really is. Getting the best/most out of your players.

It's sad that he won't spend a day in his new office or recruiting with his new facilities. It really is.

And $5million dollars will somewhat ease the pain for him, but if he really cares about winning and building something great - which I believe he does - he's gonna walk away feeling like a failure.

Because he really has failed.

He has failed to get the best out of what we got.

As we look for a new coach, I'm less concerned that we get the sexy name or the big splash.

I want us to get someone who has proven he knows how to take a group of young men and make them believe that they can play great, be great, win big.

That's something that is scalable. If they don't do it at a La Tech, they won't be able to do it at an SEC school. It's not a matter of resources, recruiting, talent, etc... It's a DNA thing. Does the guy have great coaching in his DNA? That's the most important question....
 
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I can't sleep. I never thought I would see the day when we were blown out by Vanderbilt. I hope this is rock bottom. I don't have enough money to buy all the beer I would need if it isn't.
 
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voladdiction said:
The real problem with Dooley is that he is not a leader of men.

I've really wanted him to win.
I think he has made some good hires (Sam Pittman, Jay Graham), which have addressed some big concerns (i.e. the running game)
I think he has instituted some discipline (kicking off Darren Myles, Jr, Janzen Jackson, Montori Hughes, Cam Clear, Da'Rick Rogers, etc..).
I think he has recruited well (in some respects), given the circumstances of a down program and a hot SEC (AJ Johnson, Curt Maggit, Cordarelle Patterson, Brian Randolph, Daniel McCullers, Marlin Lane, Antonio Richardson, Pig Howard, etc...)

But Dooley lacks what is essential to being a great head coach: the ability to make young men believe...in themselves, in their teammates, in the gameplan.

As I listen to his post-game pressers each week, I ask myself, "If I were in college again and playing football, would I walk away confident after spending time with this man?" Easy answer: No.

That's what's missing. Dooley will NEVER be a good head coach if he can't inspire players to play with confidence.

And judged on that basis, he has been a colossal failure.

I hate to say it. I really do. I've wanted to believe in him.

I think he has worked hard. He's really wanted to win. He's overseen the construction of an amazing new football facility.

But he just doesn't have what it takes to lead a group of young men to play their best and exceed their own expectations for themselves.

All the great coaches are men who get the best/most out of their players. But Dooley has wasted talent.

Not because he doesn't try. Or doesn't care. (And he should be given the dignity of one who really has loved being a Vol and working to re-establish our winning tradition)

He just doesn't know how to look a young man in the eye and get the best out of them.

That's what great coaching really is. Getting the best/most out of your players.

It's sad that he won't spend a day in his new office or recruiting with his new facilities. It really is.

And $5million dollars will somewhat ease the pain for him, but if he really cares about winning and building something great - which I believe he does - he's gonna walk away feeling like a failure.

Because he really has failed.

He has failed to get the best out of what we got.

As we look for a new coach, I'm less concerned that we get the sexy name or the big splash.

I want us to get someone who has proven he knows how to take a group of young men and make them believe that they can play great, be great, win big.

That's something that is scalable. If they don't do it at a La Tech, they won't be able to do it at an SEC school. It's not a matter of resources, recruiting, talent, etc... It's a DNA thing. Does the guy have great coaching in his DNA? That's the most important question....
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Best post I've ever seen on this site regarding Dooley.

I like what he's done for the program and despite the incredibly painful losses and loads of records opposing offenses set against us we are in better shape, as a program, then when he first got here.

Dooley just doesn't have what it takes to get the most from his players. I know he wants to win as much as anyone and gives everything he's got but simply hasn't been able to and most likely wouldn't in this league. I can't fault him for his efforts and hate to see anyone who is truly trying with everything they have to make this program better fail.

I can only hope that whoever is next is equally as passionate, ethical and dedicated but also much, MUCH more successful.
 
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While motivation is certainly a factor, there's a lot more wrong than Dooley's ability or lack of ability to motivate. Fiery speeches are good for movies and tv shows but real players play regardless of whether or not they have a cheerleader (we're not talking about loads of freshmen who may doubt their abilities) and we see that drive in a few of the guys on the team who have no quit whatsoever in them but there are also talented players that simply give up. There's also a lack of on-field leadership that hurts but again there is far more wrong than simply motivation.

I've defended Bray a lot in his time here but I'm not so sure anymore that his attitude and maybe even a few others on the squad isn't a bigger problem than we realize in terms of demoralizing the team. Personality conflicts among players are damaging and even more damaging when one of the players is the starting QB. But again, real ballers don't let that get in the way of playing.

We lack heart and that's sad to see regardless of who is to blame. Da'rick for all the heat he took and mistakes he made came to play. Lane and CP (despite his route running) have done the same and there are others.

Dooley needs to go and he should've been fired prior to this game but motivation comes from within. Getting fired up at half-time or pre-game or even just in general swag is great but that fire often fades shortly after the game starts (especially if there's adversity) UNLESS a player has it within.
 
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voladdiction said:
The real problem with Dooley is that he is not a leader of men.

I've really wanted him to win.
I think he has made some good hires (Sam Pittman, Jay Graham), which have addressed some big concerns (i.e. the running game)
I think he has instituted some discipline (kicking off Darren Myles, Jr, Janzen Jackson, Montori Hughes, Cam Clear, Da'Rick Rogers, etc..).
I think he has recruited well (in some respects), given the circumstances of a down program and a hot SEC (AJ Johnson, Curt Maggit, Cordarelle Patterson, Brian Randolph, Daniel McCullers, Marlin Lane, Antonio Richardson, Pig Howard, etc...)

But Dooley lacks what is essential to being a great head coach: the ability to make young men believe...in themselves, in their teammates, in the gameplan.

As I listen to his post-game pressers each week, I ask myself, "If I were in college again and playing football, would I walk away confident after spending time with this man?" Easy answer: No.

That's what's missing. Dooley will NEVER be a good head coach if he can't inspire players to play with confidence.

And judged on that basis, he has been a colossal failure.

I hate to say it. I really do. I've wanted to believe in him.

I think he has worked hard. He's really wanted to win. He's overseen the construction of an amazing new football facility.

But he just doesn't have what it takes to lead a group of young men to play their best and exceed their own expectations for themselves.

All the great coaches are men who get the best/most out of their players. But Dooley has wasted talent.

Not because he doesn't try. Or doesn't care. (And he should be given the dignity of one who really has loved being a Vol and working to re-establish our winning tradition)

He just doesn't know how to look a young man in the eye and get the best out of them.

That's what great coaching really is. Getting the best/most out of your players.

It's sad that he won't spend a day in his new office or recruiting with his new facilities. It really is.

And $5million dollars will somewhat ease the pain for him, but if he really cares about winning and building something great - which I believe he does - he's gonna walk away feeling like a failure.

Because he really has failed.

He has failed to get the best out of what we got.

As we look for a new coach, I'm less concerned that we get the sexy name or the big splash.

I want us to get someone who has proven he knows how to take a group of young men and make them believe that they can play great, be great, win big.

That's something that is scalable. If they don't do it at a La Tech, they won't be able to do it at an SEC school. It's not a matter of resources, recruiting, talent, etc... It's a DNA thing. Does the guy have great coaching in his DNA? That's the most important question....
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THIS times a million. I hope this is the same sentiment that all VFL's feel. And I hope this thread blows up. It is perfect.
 
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I never thought this season could be as bad as last season, and it could be worse if we lose to kensucky, but since they beat us last year they prolly don't care this year cause they are a bb school...Tennessee used to be a football school, but now I guess they want to be an academics school. Sorry Tennessee, the Ivy League won't be calling anytime soon.
 
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There is absolutely nothing positive to say about the Dooley era... I tried to think of some, but it's impossible to.

The end result of the 3 year Dooley era is that Tennessee needs a miracle hire to lift us up from being the joke we are now to some level of respectability.

So, thanks for nothing Dooley!

But I agree, Tennessee needs a coach that will make these players believe.
 
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UTProf said:
While motivation is certainly a factor, there's a lot more wrong than Dooley's ability or lack of ability to motivate. Fiery speeches are good for movies and tv shows but real players play regardless of whether or not they have a cheerleader (we're not talking about loads of freshmen who may doubt their abilities) and we see that drive in a few of the guys on the team who have no quit whatsoever in them but there are also talented players that simply give up. There's also a lack of on-field leadership that hurts but again there is far more wrong than simply motivation.

I've defended Bray a lot in his time here but I'm not so sure anymore that his attitude and maybe even a few others on the squad isn't a bigger problem than we realize in terms of demoralizing the team. Personality conflicts among players are damaging and even more damaging when one of the players is the starting QB. But again, real ballers don't let that get in the way of playing.

We lack heart and that's sad to see regardless of who is to blame. Da'rick for all the heat he took and mistakes he made came to play. Lane and CP (despite his route running) have done the same and there are others.

Dooley needs to go and he should've been fired prior to this game but motivation comes from within. Getting fired up at half-time or pre-game or even just in general swag is great but that fire often fades shortly after the game starts (especially if there's adversity) UNLESS a player has it within.
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How about hugh freeze at ole miss? Not a lot of talent on that ole miss team but the man has em playing for him each week!!! This kind of rediculous statement obviously comes from a lack of experience like our head coach
 
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voladdiction said:
I can't sleep. I never thought I would see the day when we were blown out by Vanderbilt. I hope this is rock bottom. I don't have enough money to buy all the beer I would need if it isn't.
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lose to Kentucky again...that is not rock bottom ...that is under a rock
 
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Well said, I feel mostly the same. The only other thing I think Dooley is missing is the ability to teach. His players have seemed lost at times and have not had good fundamentals. Bad angles on defense, poor tackling, etc.....
 
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BoseefusTheVol said:
There is absolutely nothing positive to say about the Dooley era... I tried to think of some, but it's impossible to.

The end result of the 3 year Dooley era is that Tennessee needs a miracle hire to lift us up from being the joke we are now to some level of respectability.

So, thanks for nothing Dooley!

But I agree, Tennessee needs a coach that will make these players believe.
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Come on now, I'll give you one positive of the Dooley era...his name is CP. Probaly the only positive but there is ONE.
 
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voladdiction said:
The real problem with Dooley is that he is not a leader of men.

I've really wanted him to win.
I think he has made some good hires (Sam Pittman, Jay Graham), which have addressed some big concerns (i.e. the running game)
I think he has instituted some discipline (kicking off Darren Myles, Jr, Janzen Jackson, Montori Hughes, Cam Clear, Da'Rick Rogers, etc..).
I think he has recruited well (in some respects), given the circumstances of a down program and a hot SEC (AJ Johnson, Curt Maggit, Cordarelle Patterson, Brian Randolph, Daniel McCullers, Marlin Lane, Antonio Richardson, Pig Howard, etc...)

But Dooley lacks what is essential to being a great head coach: the ability to make young men believe...in themselves, in their teammates, in the gameplan.

As I listen to his post-game pressers each week, I ask myself, "If I were in college again and playing football, would I walk away confident after spending time with this man?" Easy answer: No.

That's what's missing. Dooley will NEVER be a good head coach if he can't inspire players to play with confidence.

And judged on that basis, he has been a colossal failure.

I hate to say it. I really do. I've wanted to believe in him.

I think he has worked hard. He's really wanted to win. He's overseen the construction of an amazing new football facility.

But he just doesn't have what it takes to lead a group of young men to play their best and exceed their own expectations for themselves.

All the great coaches are men who get the best/most out of their players. But Dooley has wasted talent.

Not because he doesn't try. Or doesn't care. (And he should be given the dignity of one who really has loved being a Vol and working to re-establish our winning tradition)

He just doesn't know how to look a young man in the eye and get the best out of them.

That's what great coaching really is. Getting the best/most out of your players.

It's sad that he won't spend a day in his new office or recruiting with his new facilities. It really is.

And $5million dollars will somewhat ease the pain for him, but if he really cares about winning and building something great - which I believe he does - he's gonna walk away feeling like a failure.

Because he really has failed.

He has failed to get the best out of what we got.

As we look for a new coach, I'm less concerned that we get the sexy name or the big splash.

I want us to get someone who has proven he knows how to take a group of young men and make them believe that they can play great, be great, win big.

That's something that is scalable. If they don't do it at a La Tech, they won't be able to do it at an SEC school. It's not a matter of resources, recruiting, talent, etc... It's a DNA thing. Does the guy have great coaching in his DNA? That's the most important question....
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Well said. I never thought i would give up on a Tennessee coach, but I finally believe there is no hope for him to continue as our coach. While Bray has put up some numbers, he has regressed as a QB and he may never make it to the NFL. I look forward to the hiring of a new coach and pray that the program can be reconstructed in a reasonable time frame. Hart must be very careful in his selection. May the force be with us.
 
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