THE REAL UT.... (re-visited)

[EverythingOrange]

Tennessee:
State founded - June 1, 1796 (16th state)
School founded - 1794
Football Team first year - 1891 (6 National Championships)
Basketball first year - 1908 (26 NCAA tournament appearances / 13 NIT appearances)
Baseball first year - 1897 (4 College World Series appearances)
Lady Vols basketball first year - 1903-1926 -- Re-established - 1960 (8 National Championships / 42 NCAA tournament appearances)

Texas:
State founded - December 29, 1845 (28th state)
School founded - 1883
Football team first year - 1893 (4 National Championships)
Basketball first year - 1906 (3 Final Four appearances / 32 NCAA tournament appearances / 5 NIT appearances)
Baseball first year - 1894 (6 National Championships / 37 College World Series appearances) Damn! - They good at baseball........
Women's basketball first year - 1974 (1 National Championship / 33 NCAA tournament appearances)


HEAD-TO-HEAD: The Vols are 31-23 all-time against the Longhorns in football, men's basketball, women's basketball and baseball.

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[VOL89grad]

Tennesseans Who Died at the Alamo

Sam Houston | Biography, Texas, Alamo, President, & Facts

Always kinda silly reminding those down in former Republic of Texas that they’d be Northren Mexico Territory if not for the Volunteers. While Sam Houston was born in Virginia, he’d certainly be remembered as a Tennessean similar to Andrew Jackson who was responsible for adding Florida and Louisiana to the United States. James K Polk completed Jackson’s vision of manifest destiny…. California can give us thanks too.

Just gotta tell them “Remember the Alamo” and give thanks to the Tennesseans who gave their all for their freedom.

 

[esarmstrong]

Pretty sure we've been to the college World Series 5 times.

 

[kell7517]

So the school Was founded before the state?

 

[kckempf]

So the school Was founded before the state?

On September 10, 1794, two years before Tennessee became a state and at a meeting of the legislature of the Southwest Territory at Knoxville, Blount College was established with a charter.

University of Tennessee - Wikipedia

 

[EasternVol]

University of Tennessee - Wikipedia

There was no University of Tennessee until after the War of Northern Aggression. It's pretty disingenuous to use 1794 as the founding date.

 

[kckempf]

There was no University of Tennessee until after the War of Northern Aggression. It's pretty disingenuous to use 1794 as the founding date.

It’s not a controversial way of counting the years to use the date of the original charter. The university suspended classes during the War of Southern Idiocy because the campus was occupied but restarted class in 1866.

 

[EasternVol]

It’s not a controversial way of counting the years to use the date of the original charter. The university suspended classes during the War of Southern Idiocy because the campus was occupied but restarted class in 1866.

If the original charter mentioned University of Tennessee there'd be no issue. But it didn't.

 

[AlwaysOrangeNeverBlue]

If the original charter mentioned University of Tennessee there'd be no issue. But it didn't.

Lol dude - I’m all about historical accuracy, but this is ludicrous to take as a position. Draw your line elsewhere. Go Big Orange!

 

[kckempf]

If the original charter mentioned University of Tennessee there'd be no issue. But it didn't.

You probably should get started on that spreadsheet of the true founding (in your eyes) of every university in the US, then, because name changes are incredibly common.

 

[EasternVol]

Duplicate

 

[Volfan1000]

Coach Barnes will be very revved up to beat his former employer in the Rick Barnes Bowl 2.0.

 

[EasternVol]

You probably should get started on that spreadsheet of the true founding (in your eyes) of every university in the US, then, because name changes are incredibly common.

If you want a spreadsheet then knock yourself out. Yes schools often change names but in our case it was also the function / scope that changed. Tennessee didn't have a flagship state university until East Tennessee College got the land grant funds in the late 1860's and it became UT.

 

[kckempf]

If you want a spreadsheet then knock yourself out. Yes schools often change names but in our case it was also the function / scope that changed. Tennessee didn't have a flagship state university until East Tennessee College got the land grant funds in the late 1860's and it became UT.

Could you go and make a list of all of the American public universities from before the 1860s? You'll learn a lot.

 

[YankeeVol]

If the original charter mentioned University of Tennessee there'd be no issue. But it didn't.

The University claims 1794

The University of Tennessee, Knoxville | UT Timeline

 

[EasternVol]

Could you go and make a list of all of the American public universities from before the 1860s? You'll learn a lot.

I'm aware, thanks.

 

[kckempf]

I'm aware, thanks.

It's apparent that you are not! But doing the reading would enlighten and maybe even please you, if you take joy from reading about education history and the history of education policy.

Use of public funds for education was one of the things that derailed Seward's path to the Republican Party presidential nomination in the antebellum period. The bigger story is fascinating, but is better read from a book than from here.

 

[VOLnVANDYland]

Tennessee:
State founded - June 1, 1796 (16th state)
School founded - 1794
Football Team first year - 1891 (6 National Championships)
Basketball first year - 1908 (23 NCAA tournament appearances / 13 NIT appearances)
Baseball first year - 1897 (4 College World Series appearances)
Lady Vols basketball first year - 1903-1926 -- Re-established - 1960 (8 National Championships / 39 NCAA tournament appearances)

Texas:
State founded - December 29, 1845 (28th state)
School founded - 1883
Football team first year - 1893 (4 National Championships)
Basketball first year - 1906 (3 Final Four appearances / 32 NCAA tournament appearances / 5 NIT appearances)
Baseball first year - 1894 (6 National Championships / 37 College World Series appearances) Damn! - They good at baseball........
Women's basketball first year - 1974 (1 National Championship / 32 NCAA tournament appearances)


HEAD-TO-HEAD: The Vols are 31-23 all-time against the Longhorns in football, men's basketball, women's basketball and baseball.

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What’s head to head record without lady’s bball? Cause who really cares

 

[robcovol]

Vols fan deep in the heart of Texas. Texas calls is “burnt orange.” To me, I call it “brown.”

 

[EverythingOrange]

‘NUFF SAID…

 

[pimo1]

Woohoo and going forward we get to see them on a regular basis to show em.