"The ruling on the field was that the player's forward progress had stopped."

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Sheik Yerbouti

Sheik Yerbouti

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I'm specifically referring to the strip of the Bama receiver, and Tennessee's recovery in the 4th quarter.

How was this the ruling on the field? Wouldn't someone have to have blown a whistle for this actually to have been the ruling on the field? Can someone explain this to me?
 
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Sheik Yerbouti said:
I'm specifically referring to the strip of the Bama receiver, and Tennessee's recovery in the 4th quarter.

How was this the ruling on the field? Wouldn't someone have to have blown a whistle for this actually to have been the ruling on the field? Can someone explain this to me?
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How they blew made that call without blowing the pay dead first is beyond me! Not like it would have made a difference in the outcome of the game but still!
 
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Sheik Yerbouti said:
I'm specifically referring to the strip of the Bama receiver, and Tennessee's recovery in the 4th quarter.

How was this the ruling on the field? Wouldn't someone have to have blown a whistle for this actually to have been the ruling on the field? Can someone explain this to me?
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Whistle was not blown and it was a BS call but who really cares now?
 
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Obvious bad call...

Obvious Refs wanted to keep clock moving, end game & go home.

Anything other than that is pure "grassy knoll" stuff...
 
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The game was in Tuscaloosa. You are not going to get any favorable calls in T-town ( just like Lexington in basketball)
 
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It was a blown call. Had forward progression stopped?...ehh, yeah. Had the whistle blown? Negative. Should have been a fumble!
 
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It should have been a fumble, plain and simple. Let's just suppose for a moment, that the Bama player had broke loose from the scrum and ran it in for a touchdown. Do you think they would have called it dead due to forward progress?

Doubtful.
 
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1985Vols said:
The game was in Tuscaloosa. You are not going to get any favorable calls in T-town ( just like Lexington in basketball)
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I will not deny that this statement is true for the most part, but that TD called back on Cooper for pass interference was a pathetic call.
 
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HolyTider said:
It was a blown call. Had forward progression stopped?...ehh, yeah. Had the whistle blown? Negative. Should have been a fumble!
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If it was a blown call, it was blown on the field when they failed to blow the whistle. They shouldn't be able to rewrite history and claim they they made a different call "on the field." What they said over the PA is just dishonest.
 
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Whistle should have been blown but it wasn't so I think it was a live play and should have had fumble. I also can't remember what player it was but we got an unnecessary roughness call when our player could not control his momentum and accidently hit a Bama player late. I thought the play was not intentional and was not that violent and refs should have not threw flag.
 
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hillsborovol said:
It should have been a fumble, plain and simple. Let's just suppose for a moment, that the Bama player had broke loose from the scrum and ran it in for a touchdown. Do you think they would have called it dead due to forward progress?

Doubtful.
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Agreed - which is why the whistle ends play. Blown decision that may very well be legal given the replay official and his assigned authority. This is similar to what happened in the Texas/Iowa State game that cost Iowa State the game.
 
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1725gatorhater said:
Whistle should have been blown but it wasn't so I think it was a live play and should have had fumble. I also can't remember what player it was but we got an unnecessary roughness call when our player could not control his momentum and accidently hit a Bama player late. I thought the play was not intentional and was not that violent and refs should have not threw flag.
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Vereen.
 
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1725gatorhater said:
Whistle should have been blown but it wasn't so I think it was a live play and should have had fumble. I also can't remember what player it was but we got an unnecessary roughness call when our player could not control his momentum and accidently hit a Bama player late. I thought the play was not intentional and was not that violent and refs should have not threw flag.[/QU

Neither had the whistle blown on the roughness call. I hope the coaches are teaching "play to the whistle." Remember when Memphis beat us with a touchdown when all Vols stopped playing at mid-field.
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I will not deny that this statement is true for the most part, but that TD called back on Cooper for pass interference was a pathetic call.

It was not a hard pushoff by Cooper, but by definition of the rule it was offensive pass interference because Cooper used his hand to attempt to get separation from the defender. On the other hand (no pun intended), no whistle had blown signalling the play was over on the UT strip of the ball, so by definition of the rule the play was still live and the fumble recovery by UT should have stood.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
I will not deny that this statement is true for the most part, but that TD called back on Cooper for pass interference was a pathetic call.

It was not a hard pushoff by Cooper, but by definition of the rule it was offensive pass interference because Cooper used his hand to attempt to get separation from the defender. On the other hand (no pun intended), no whistle had blown signalling the play was over on the UT strip of the ball, so by definition of the rule the play was still live and the fumble recovery by UT should have stood.
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Exactly. The rule doesn't say how hard you have to push off.. All it says is don't reach your grubby little hands out to get separation. Good call, but it didn't feel right.
 
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Sheik Yerbouti said:
I'm specifically referring to the strip of the Bama receiver, and Tennessee's recovery in the 4th quarter.

How was this the ruling on the field? Wouldn't someone have to have blown a whistle for this actually to have been the ruling on the field? Can someone explain this to me?
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We all know the real problem with this call is that if the Bama player had broken free, even at the same point that the fumble occurred after "forward progress" had been stopped, and scored a touchdown...it would have stood. Pure BS call.
 
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I had a problem with the progression stopped as well. While I agree that progression had stopped, there is a reason they have a whistle in their mouths. I was always taught that the play is dead when the ref blows the whistle. Maybe they had the Bama - 28.5.
 
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1725gatorhater said:
Whistle should have been blown but it wasn't so I think it was a live play and should have had fumble. I also can't remember what player it was but we got an unnecessary roughness call when our player could not control his momentum and accidently hit a Bama player late. I thought the play was not intentional and was not that violent and refs should have not threw flag.
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If you are referring to Vereen, he had stopped with the player down, then moved into him. Dumb play, good call/

As for the fumble. his progress had stopped and the play should have been dead, however, no whistle, no stoppage of play.
 
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It seems clear that Alabama could have won the contest without help, but the refs seemed to want to put their thumbs on the scale anyway. SMH
 
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TAF said:
Obvious bad call...

Obvious Refs wanted to keep clock moving, end game & go home.

Anything other than that is pure "grassy knoll" stuff...
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Or maybe one of them had some $$$ on the game. It did affect the spread. :)
 
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