"The ruling on the field was that the player's forward progress had stopped."

[gvol]

Covered the spread. Plain and simple.

 

[SamRebel35]

Vereen was playing to the whistle. Play had not been blown dead. It may have been silly, but I understand it to a degree. If the ref doesn't want dudes getting popped after the play is over, then they may want to go ahead and blow the whistle to officially end the play. Just sayin'.

And I lost count how many blocks in the back I saw when Alabama was on punt return or any of their counter/draw plays on offense. They should have had a block in the back on maybe 20% of their offensive plays. Never got one.

 

[Vols1-TN n KY]

I called BS when it happened and after sleeping on it (and sobering up), I call double BS. No whistle = fumble. Plain and simple.
Also I woke up thinking I still hate that Red team!!!!

 

[orchidvol]

It should have been a fumble, plain and simple. Let's just suppose for a moment, that the Bama player had broke loose from the scrum and ran it in for a touchdown. Do you think they would have called it dead due to forward progress?

Doubtful.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly. If he would have broken free and run for a TD, we'd get to watch a dozen replays of it and hear the announcers comment "Wow! The student section is glad they stuck around for that play!"

 

[mocfan]

NCAA Rule 4-1-3-a states that the ball becomes dead “when the runner is so held that his forward progress is stopped.” Officials must determine if the opponent of the runner has sufficiently held or grasped the runner so as to have stopped his forward movement. This action is what kills the play not the whistle. A quick whistle can get an official into trouble, but too much of delayed whistle can also cause problems.

 

[BearCat204]

NCAA Rule 4-1-3-a states that the ball becomes dead “when the runner is so held that his forward progress is stopped.” Officials must determine if the opponent of the runner has sufficiently held or grasped the runner so as to have stopped his forward movement. This action is what kills the play not the whistle. A quick whistle can get an official into trouble, but too much of delayed whistle can also cause problems.

It was the correct call and by the book. These women who keep suggesting it was because a ref had money on the game need to take off the damn tinfoil hats. That and actually know the rules.

 

[lexkyvol]

I will not deny that this statement is true for the most part, but that TD called back on Cooper for pass interference was a pathetic call.

It was a good call, bad replay camera angle. he pushed off

 

[BruiserVol]

It was a blown call and I completely agree with the point you're getting at. The refs said "the call on the field is the runners forward progress was stopped." Um no, the call on the field was not. The whistle never blew.

 

[BearCat204]

It was a blown call and I completely agree with the point you're getting at. The refs said "the call on the field is the runners forward progress was stopped." Um no, the call on the field was not. The whistle never blew.

Again, familiarize yourself with the rule, doesn't matter of the whistle blew. I hate it, but the correct call was made.

 

[volwindy]

It should have been a fumble, plain and simple. Let's just suppose for a moment, that the Bama player had broke loose from the scrum and ran it in for a touchdown. Do you think they would have called it dead due to forward progress?

Doubtful.

Good point!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

NCAA Rule 4-1-3-a states that the ball becomes dead “when the runner is so held that his forward progress is stopped.” Officials must determine if the opponent of the runner has sufficiently held or grasped the runner so as to have stopped his forward movement. This action is what kills the play not the whistle. A quick whistle can get an official into trouble, but too much of delayed whistle can also cause problems.

Would you mind linking to or quoting the text of the actual rule?

 

[gm1ll]

Here's the way I saw it. The ball carrier was still fighting to gain yardage even though he was getting pushed back. This would have been different if the ball carrier had been stood up and was back pedaling to stay upright. In that case it is obvious the ball carrier is stopped. In the case saturday, he was still fighting and trying to break free, therefore should have been live ball until the whistle.

Just my interpretation of the rule.