The secret corporate sponsor for Glenn Beck is (drum roll please) ....

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lawgator1

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...definitely Campbell's Soups. Driving in just now and he was saying that the economic problems in Greece are a sure signal we here in the US need to start buying and storing canned goods.

Hope they have some left at my local Publix when I get out of work today!
 
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i dont agree with Beck on a lot of things but, doesnt Greece have a lot of social entitlement programs which create a huge burden on the tax payers? If the taxpayers are having to pay for non taxpayers to have their cigs and beer, doesnt that mean less money for them to spend? If they do not have the money to spend, doesnt that eventually mean an economic collapse? If there is an economic collapse doesnt that mean inflation through the roof, and food commodites will become unaffordable? SO wouldnt stocking up make sense in this scenario, which BTW is possible with the massive expansion of social entitlements on the horizon, which in all honesty is a pathetic way to stay in control
 
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I take no issue with drawing a VERY rough analogy and saying its a lesson in the need for fiscal discipline. But Greece's debt was much, much worse -- for example as a percentage of GDP -- than ours and they have no viable means to pay it down, whereas with sustained economic growth we do.

My point is that the oversimplifaction of these problems is a hallmark of Beck and his ilk and all they do is drive a certain segment of the population into irrational frenzy or fear. It is irresponsible, although that is probably giving him way too much credit that he even remotely understands that he is wrong.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I take no issue with drawing a VERY rough analogy and saying its a lesson in the need for fiscal discipline. But Greece's debt was much, much worse -- for example as a percentage of GDP -- than ours and they have no viable means to pay it down, whereas with sustained economic growth we do.

My point is that the oversimplifaction of these problems is a hallmark of Beck and his ilk and all they do is drive a certain segment of the population into irrational frenzy or fear. It is irresponsible, although that is probably giving him way too much credit that he even remotely understands that he is wrong.
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well it didnt happen over night, it took a while to build and build, then finally it collapsed. If we keep expanding out debt, and legislative and executive branches keep writing checks like they are then eventually we will be in the same boat, except it will be much much worse. Until our government gets some sort of sense of fiscal responsibility we are on a collision course with disaster.

And the libs write off a certain segment of the populus, instead of showing they have a point and a reason to be angry, they write them off as racist ignorant tea bagging rednecks.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I take no issue with drawing a VERY rough analogy and saying its a lesson in the need for fiscal discipline. But Greece's debt was much, much worse -- for example as a percentage of GDP -- than ours and they have no viable means to pay it down, whereas with sustained economic growth we do.

My point is that the oversimplifaction of these problems is a hallmark of Beck and his ilk and all they do is drive a certain segment of the population into irrational frenzy or fear. It is irresponsible, although that is probably giving him way too much credit that he even remotely understands that he is wrong.
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garbage. if you don't see that we are heading down the same road with our chief socialist i don't know what to tell you.
 
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gee droski, didnt you know that with obama all is meadows, and flowers and gumdrops?
 
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droski said:
garbage. if you don't see that we are heading down the same road with our chief socialist i don't know what to tell you.
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That even with our current debt we are nowhere close to the situation in Greece? That analogizing the economic problems of a country smaller than Los Angeles to a country 35 times its size and with an entirely different economic system is a fool's errand?
 
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well its the same concept, you can only borrow against so much, and you can only burden the backbone of American economics, the small business owner so much. its just on a larger scale. Why should my students strive for an "a" when im gonna take from their grade and give it to my "c" students so they are equal?
 
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GASOUTHERNVOL said:
well its the same concept, you can only borrow against so much, and you can only burden the backbone of American economics, the small business owner so much. its just on a larger scale. Why should my students strive for an "a" when im gonna take from their grade and give it to my "c" students so they are equal?
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I think that is a dramatic and terribly inaccurate overstatement of where we are, and where we are headed, but I understand that branding Obama a socialist is in vogue right now.
 
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please explain how expanding the debt, especially with this health care crap and what not is gonna lead us to trouble.

I mean if you take your debit card and go on a denim shorts buying spree, eventually you will run out of money right? eventually you will stop being able to use that card to buy your denim socks, denim shorts, demin shirts, denim shoes etc etc.

Why is it my responsibility to pay for these bums that wont get a job, and get an incentive check to have kids? I dont care let them starve if they dont wanna work, but thats a whole different issue.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That even with our current debt we are nowhere close to the situation in Greece? That analogizing the economic problems of a country smaller than Los Angeles to a country 35 times its size and with an entirely different economic system is a fool's errand?
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greece is at 125%. we are right near 100%. it's not as far off as you suggest. and if you take a look at new york, illinios, and california state gov'ts you see a lot of similarities. and let's not forget that spain, italy, and portugal are very close to needing a bailout too. let's not act like this is only limited to greece.
 
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In order to vote I believe that you must pay taxes, that keeps the libs from giving a certain bloc of society a handout inorder to ensure their votes
 
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greece's public employees have contracts very similar to state and govt' public employees in this country and the UAW. all supported vigerously by obama's union buddies. the only reason we aren't in the same situation is we don't have as many public employees per capita as greece.
 
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lawgator1 said:
fyp
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You bring up race more than anyone, I think you should take a close look into the racist past of your party. There is one member of congress who has admitted to being a member of the klan, can you guess which party he belongs to?
 
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If we are on the brink of economic collapse because of Greece's welfare state mentality, and which accoridng to you kind folks we are emulating at every turn, why is the stock market up 3.7 percent this morning?
 
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lawgator1 said:
If we are on the brink of economic collapse because of Greece's welfare state mentality, and which accoridng to you kind folks we are emulating at every turn, why is the stock market up 3.7 percent this morning?
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There were reports that you were moving to France
 
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lawgator1 said:
If we are on the brink of economic collapse because of Greece's welfare state mentality, and which accoridng to you kind folks we are emulating at every turn, why is the stock market up 3.7 percent this morning?
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talk about a complete non sequitor. who said we are on the brink of an economic collapse? and is it lost to you that the stock market is up BECAUSE the european union and the less socialist countries just bailed out the more socialist countries to the tune of a trillion dolllars? or are wall street bail outs the only one that get your outrage?
 
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lawgator1 said:
If we are on the brink of economic collapse because of Greece's welfare state mentality, and which accoridng to you kind folks we are emulating at every turn, why is the stock market up 3.7 percent this morning?
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yah but didnt the dow drop like 1000 plus points on friday?
 
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droski said:
talk about a complete non sequitor. who said we are on the brink of an economic collapse? and is it lost to you that the stock market is up BECAUSE the european union and the less socialist countries just bailed out the more socialist countries to the tune of a trillion dolllars? or are wall street bail outs the only one that get your outrage?
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I'm sure you are right about why its up -- that plus rubber banding it from some of the electronic trading reaction from last week.

But at any rate, Glenn Beck says to buy canned goods, so I just cannot fathom how anyone can think that Armageddon isn't due at about, oh, 3 o'clock.
 
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"that plus rubber banding it from some of the electronic trading reaction from last week."

what the hell are you talking about?
 
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