The supermajority has spoken

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utgibbs

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in Italy at least.

Referendum turned out well over half the electorate (unheard of in Italy where they rarely reach a quorum on referendums), at a time when Berly's media was telling Italians to hit the beach and not vote. It was a supermajority of > 90% NO to nuclear power.

This issue really has me in knots these days. If the anti-nuclear movement was a springboard to authentically changing the dominant culture, and creating a culture based around our genetic heritage and living on the much reduced capacity of renewables, I'm on the bandwagon after Fukushima. BUT, I don't believe this is the case.

And I'm not sure it's the right move anyway. It's quite possible coal fired plants are actually many times deadlier (and will undoubtedly create an alien world) than either nuclear disasters in the Communist and Capitalist worlds. What we lack is transparency.

Global heating confronts us with challenges we are poorly equipped to handle as a species. Our genes have three billion years of evolution to tell us mushroom clouds would not be good. Our genes have equipped us to handle the global heating problem, but we so rarely use those precious gifts.
 
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3 billion years of evolution?

and wait a minute...90% of 50% of the electorate? that works out to something like 40% of the population (give or take depending on the actual numbers)

I will grant you that 90% is a lot (unless you're voting for president in Venezuela, Iraq, Cuba or Zimbabwe). However, how much of Italy's power comes from nuclear?

not sure why I bothered to respond, but gsvol is posting nothing but clever images and personal attacks against milo, so he's no fun anymore.
 
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the economist has a nice feature on italy this week. go read it and tell me if we shoudl be following those idiots.
 
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3 billion years of evolution?

and wait a minute...90% of 50% of the electorate? that works out to something like 40% of the population (give or take depending on the actual numbers)

I will grant you that 90% is a lot (unless you're voting for president in Venezuela, Iraq, Cuba or Zimbabwe). However, how much of Italy's power comes from nuclear?

not sure why I bothered to respond, but gsvol is posting nothing but clever images and personal attacks against milo, so he's no fun anymore.

Gs' posts are getting deleted too. I owe someone a high five.
 
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3 billion years of evolution?

and wait a minute...90% of 50% of the electorate? that works out to something like 40% of the population (give or take depending on the actual numbers)

I will grant you that 90% is a lot (unless you're voting for president in Venezuela, Iraq, Cuba or Zimbabwe). However, how much of Italy's power comes from nuclear?

not sure why I bothered to respond, but gsvol is posting nothing but clever images and personal attacks against milo, so he's no fun anymore.

It was more like 60% of the electorate, but you raise a good point nonetheless. Supermajority of those who voted.

I think what nuclear power they receive they import from France, but I will have to look.

Again, this issue has me really conflicted. I would like to think we are capable of harnessing the awesome power of the atom, but it seems too dangerous in the time of Capital. Of course, NOT harnessing the awesome power of the atom is creating an alien planet, certainly alien to our two million years as Homo sapiens.

We are kin to every living thing that has ever lived on this planet. Our planet. I guess 3.5 billion years of evolution is more accurate, but I was hoping for some license in a blog.
 
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A priori assumptions about unrecorded natural history are NOT a sound basis for any argument.
 

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