The threat within the threat. Terrorist cells planned infilitration in the immigration Crisis.

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

I really feel like this needs to be discussed as it's own issue. The Illegal immigration crisis in itself is an attack on our economic systerm, our welfare system, and of course it is being used to try and attack voting areas politically via demographics. However within that attack is a much more sinister attack where our enemies are taking full advantage of the crisis to get terrorist cells into the country. They are organized. They are well funded. They already have over succeeded in getting people in, and they do plan Oct 7-8th style attacks like in Israel here in the United States. This will happen on our current course. The war is not over if one side does not quit. We need to start having adult, and big boy and girl conversations on the coming threat and how our enemies are exploiting this. You need to understand that YOU and people LIKE you WILL be the targets.

Very informative discussion.


I would very much appreciate keeping this thread SEPERATE from Immigration Crisis. it is connected. But it is very much a seperate issue. The coming terrorist attacks and our failures to vet these cells is an entirely different threat that we need to start discussing. WHo and what groups are at the Darien Gap, and how they are using the immigration crisis as cover Matters as it's own seperate topic. Most of the good info on this is coming from people like Mann in this interview who are SOF veterans, Sarah Adams (CIA whistle blower), Legend our afghan ally, multiple actual journalist with military and SOF backgrounds like Michael Yon (who has repeatedly risked his life at teh Darien Gap). They are screaming from any pulpit they can get, that we are under attack, and most Americans are completely oblivious. These are not tinfoil types, these are professionals who are experts on teh threat and our security. We said we'd never forget after 9/11 but we have all forgotten as a country, and we are sleep walking into something much much worse and more horrible then what happened in 2001.

Again Request from the admin to please keep this line of discussion seperate. This is IMPORTANT. Please do not merge.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Didn't see this coming. - said idiot leftists.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Didn't see this coming. - said idiot leftists.

Usually I say don't attribute to maliciouisness what can be atrributed to incompotence. But the CIA absolutely knows what is going on at the Darien Gap, they absaolutely are aware of these cells. Think about it from their perspective, and add a cold heart. To continue to get funds on the war on terror you need terrorist attacks. In this case this complete failure at security IS malicious. They know what is happening and appear to be allowing it to happen on purpose. Not the first time.

I wrote a paper way back when on Al Qaeda and the coming attacks to places like NYC in the 90's long before 9/11. The cole had happened the previous bomb in the garage at UN had happened. There was mountains of evidence that they were planning something bigger, and that it was going to be far worse. Intelligence was NOT caught off guard. they saw it coming and at the least did nothing, or at worst some might have been complicit. (red flags on many of the hijackers comes to mind, and how they were rubber stamped by a certain chief of station.) I can tell you countless stories leading up to that attack of people being warned by military intelligence etc that loved ones should not fly during that period. We knew. They did nothing.

What makes me most angry is that we are not caught off guard, we know it is coming, and yet there are some heartless and borderline treasonous people within our own intelligence that want such things to happen to inflate their budgets.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Usually I say don't attribute to maliciouisness what can be atrributed to incompotence. But the CIA absolutely knows what is going on at the Darien Gap, they absaolutely are aware of these cells. Think about it from their perspective, and add a cold heart. To continue to get funds on the war on terror you need terrorist attacks. In this case this complete failure at security IS malicious. They know what is happening and appear to be allowing it to happen on purpose. Not the first time.

I wrote a paper way back when on Al Qaeda and the coming attacks to places like NYC in the 90's long before 9/11. The cole had happened the previous bomb in the garage at UN had happened. There was mountains of evidence that they were planning something bigger, and that it was going to be far worse. Intelligence was NOT caught off guard. they saw it coming and at the least did nothing, or at worst some might have been complicit. (red flags on many of the hijackers comes to mind, and how they were rubber stamped by a certain chief of station.) I can tell you countless stories leading up to that attack of people being warned by military intelligence etc that loved ones should not fly during that period. We knew. They did nothing.

What makes me most angry is that we are not caught off guard, we know it is coming, and yet there are some heartless and borderline treasonous people within our own intelligence that want such things to happen to inflate their budgets.

Barack Hussein Soetoro

 

[NashVol11]

I really feel like this needs to be discussed as it's own issue. The Illegal immigration crisis in itself is an attack on our economic systerm,

Don't like the economy? Blame immigrants

and our welfare system,

Not getting enough welfare? Blame immigrants

and of course it is being used to try and attack voting areas politically via demographics.

Don't like who's in charge? Blame immigrants

However within that attack is a much more sinister attack where our enemies are taking full advantage of the crisis to get terrorist cells into the country. They are organized. They are well funded. They already have over succeeded in getting people in, and they do plan Oct 7-8th style attacks like in Israel here in the United Sattes. This will happen on our current course.

Terrorism? Blame immigrants

The war is not over if one side does not quit. We need to start having adult, and big boy and girl conversations on the coming threat and how our enemies are exploiting this. You need to understand that YOU and people LIKE you WILL be the targets.

They're coming for YOU. For any problem you have, blame immigrants. What could go wrong with this line of thinking

 

[AirVol]

Don't like the economy? Blame immigrants

Not getting enough welfare? Blame immigrants

Don't like who's in charge? Blame immigrants

Terrorism? Blame immigrants

They're coming for YOU. For any problem you have, blame immigrants. What could go wrong with this line of thinking

Let’s pretend a handful of criminals just got released from prison and they all moved next door to you in your trailer park. Would you be concerned for your family? Honest question

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Let’s pretend a handful of criminals just got released from prison and they all moved next door to you in your trailer park. Would you be concerned for your family? Honest question

In his trailer park? SMDH

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Don't like the economy? Blame immigrants

Not getting enough welfare? Blame immigrants

Don't like who's in charge? Blame immigrants

Terrorism? Blame immigrants

They're coming for YOU. For any problem you have, blame immigrants. What could go wrong with this line of thinking

I have zero problems with legal immigration, and many of my friends are from all over the world. I’ll put a wager I know people from nearly every contenant, who came here LEGALLY. Do you? I have friends from China, Japan, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Egypt, Iraq, etc etc. all came legally, all were vetted, all are contributing to our society. Also none are on the dole, because they are educated, work hard, and do not need a handout. Unrestricted mass migration without checks or vetting absolutely is an issue for all the reasons you just showed. That isn’t showing me out of pocket. That is showing just how much a crisis and disaster this complete break down of rule of law is to the nation. Let’s add the fentanyl, and other deadly drug crisis too shall we? Yes the border crisis is that bad…and anyone is supporting is betraying this nation and our children’s future including LEGAL immigrant’s children’s future. Your post shows more of just how out of touch you are with the border crisis than ANYTHING.

lastly Nashvol11, let’s just bookmark and remember when someone made a thread specifically about the coming terrorist threat. This was your response. Because an attack will happen multiple cells have come here, and when they do hit, your response is going to look very different. You supported it, and attacked someone raising the issue of the threat. Maybe then some will see just how dangerous the left is right now and the open border policy is.

 

[n_huffhines]

I have zero problems with legal immigration, and many of my friends are from all over the world. I’ll put a wager I know people from nearly every contenant, who came here LEGALLY. Do you? 8 have friends from China, Japan, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Egypt, Iraq, etc etc. all came legally, all were. Vetted lol are contributing to our society. Also none are on the dole, because they are educated, work hard, and do not need an handout. Unrestricted mass migration without checks or vetting absolutely is an issue for all the reasons you just showed. That isn’t showing me out of pocket. That is showing just how much a crisis and disaster this complete break down of rule of law is to the nation. Let’s add the fentanyl, and other deadly drug crisis too shall we? Yes the border crisis is that bad…and anyone is supporting is betraying this nation and our children’s future including LEGAL immigrant’s children’s future. Your post shows more of just how out of touch you are with the border crisis than ANYTHING.

I bet you do. I can pretty much guarantee you're in the group that's trying to scale back legal immigration.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

One of the original whistleblowers trying to wake people up to the threat. “Superbad”

 

[n_huffhines]

Immigrants are the oldest scapegoat in the book. It's always been this way. The Chinese, Italians, Irish, etc. all took their turns getting attacked by the nationalists. Pretty much all the same arguments, just repeated over time. They built America, just like our immigrant friends from south of the border have built America.

You can be strictly for legal immigration without spending all your political capital demonizing whole groups of people. The anti-migrant sentiment in this country is completely out of wack with reality. Yes, we have an immigration problem. No, it's not the cause of our fentanyl problem. No, it's not making America into a scary place to live. No, it's not the reason our government sucks.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

I bet you do. I can pretty much guarantee you're in the group that's trying to scale back legal immigration.

Then you would be wrong, I would like to stop all illegal immigration, and make legal immigration process much easier vetted immigrants with skills, and a desire to succeed is this nations life blood. I have always supported that. But wholesale immigration of unskilled labor wanting welfare, and absolute no background checks is insanity only a brainwashed liberal could support.

 

[hog88]

Immigrants are the oldest scapegoat in the book. It's always been this way. The Chinese, Italians, Irish, etc. all took their turns getting attacked by the nationalists. Pretty much all the same arguments, just repeated over time. They built America, just like our immigrant friends from south of the border have built America.

You can be strictly for legal immigration without spending all your political capital demonizing whole groups of people. The anti-migrant sentiment in this country is completely out of wack with reality. Yes, we have an immigration problem. No, it's not the cause of our fentanyl problem. No, it's not making America into a scary place to live. No, it's not the reason our government sucks.

Dumbest immigration argument ever. Other than the Indians every damn person who built America is an immigrant or descendant of an immigrant.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

From an afghani risking his life warning you.

 

[NashVol11]

Immigrants are the oldest scapegoat in the book. It's always been this way. The Chinese, Italians, Irish, etc. all took their turns getting attacked by the nationalists. Pretty much all the same arguments, just repeated over time. They built America, just like our immigrant friends from south of the border have built America.

You can be strictly for legal immigration without spending all your political capital demonizing whole groups of people. The anti-migrant sentiment in this country is completely out of wack with reality. Yes, we have an immigration problem. No, it's not the cause of our fentanyl problem. No, it's not making America into a scary place to live. No, it's not the reason our government sucks.

Which was my point. People are expanding and sensationalizing the immigration issue until immigrants become the scapegoat for literally everything wrong in this country, which is a common talking point for ignorant people throughout history

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

From on the ground at the gap. This is not spontaneous, this is organized and international terrorist groups, and our nations worst state enemies, are absolutely organizing this from there. You can ignore it, but when attacks happen do not claim ignorance.

 

[n_huffhines]

Then you would be wrong, I would like to stop all illegal immigration, and make legal immigration process much easier vetted immigrants with skills, and a desire to succeed is this nations life blood. I have always supported that. But wholesale immigration of unskilled labor wanting welfare, and absolute no background checks is insanity only a brainwashed liberal could support.

You know that asylum seekers are legal immigrants. Thoughts?

How do you screen people for "wanting welfare?" FTR, there is data from both sides that make compelling cases that they are a net burden/net benefit in the short run, but I know of no research that makes the case that low-skilled immigrants are a net burden on society in the long run. IDC how many Italian, Irish, or Chinese losers came at the forefront, nobody looks at those groups like they are a net drag today. And the data is very positive about 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanic immigrants, regardless of whether or not the original arrival was legal.

Who wants no background checks? Who is advocating for that?

Why do you want immigrants to take the good, skilled jobs?

Inflation is a big problem in this country because we are understaffed with unskilled labor. Trump's own fkn Chamber of Commerce said we were 1m workers short, and he clamped down with y'all cheering. Americans don't know what's good for them. Remember when McDonald's was maybe over-staffed and cheaper? Good times.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I bet you do. I can pretty much guarantee you're in the group that's trying to scale back legal immigration.

We certainly should NOW. There has to be a period to assimilate the ones that flowed in. (and are continuing to do so unfettered.)

 

[Cod]

You know that asylum seekers are legal immigrants. Thoughts?

You know there are parameters for "Asylum Seekers", you can't just walk in from Africa and say I'm here seeking asylum.

 

[dalton_vol]

this Thread reeks of racism

 

[whodeycin85]

You know there are parameters for "Asylum Seekers", you can't just walk in from Africa and say I'm here seeking asylum.

You can now using the app.. asylum parameters have been ignored for a while now. Asylum seekers should be claiming asylum in the first country the touch down in...not travel several countries... Canada would turn away asylum seekers by asylum from South America thay traveled thru the US. Then they have to prove the were being persecuted and not just leaving a **** hole country.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Don't like the economy? Blame immigrants

Not getting enough welfare? Blame immigrants

Don't like who's in charge? Blame immigrants

Terrorism? Blame immigrants

They're coming for YOU. For any problem you have, blame immigrants. What could go wrong with this line of thinking

If only you actually loved your fellow Americans.

Immigrants are not the problem... you are.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Let’s pretend a handful of criminals just got released from prison and they all moved next door to you in your trailer park. Would you be concerned for your family? Honest question

Section 8 housing bro...

 

[FLVOL_79]

It reeks of a sensational pedo that cares about everything but his own country.

Black person can't finish High School... blame whitey.
Chicks for dicks can't beat up women... blame whitey.
Obama murders Americans.... blame whitey.
Black person kills another black person.... blame whitey.
Black lady can't abort her 2 year old.... blame whitey.

He offers nothing but sensational pedo talk yet he is blaming others for sensational speech.

The mentality ill have probably won and its just sad.

Hey guys millions of people coming across the borders every year.... no problem.

To be fair organized education in general is a very White Colonizer thing. Not getting an education is technically the biggest up yours "they" can give to "The Man".