The Transfer Numbers Game

[white65]

From this transfer portal list in the link below, we have 6 players leaving. If we are going to bring in 7 transfers (the max) then we'll need one player on the current roster to go in the portal.

I post this because I see people talking like we're bringing in 25 transfers next year.

2022 College Football Transfer Portal

With the transfer rules, covid year(s), etc. I want to get an answer on our numbers this class.

For the transfer numbers in particular. The way I understand the rule is that a school can only bring in the same amount of players as they lose. For example if you have 5 leave, then you can bring 5 in.

The second part of the rule is that regardless of how many players you have leave you can only bring in up to 7 transfers max.

NCAA D-I Council approves 1-year signing limits waiver to account for transfers

"This waiver will allow those programs to replace up to seven departing transfers above the 25-player limit. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who enter the portal after either the end of the institution’s fall term or Dec. 15, 2021, whichever is earlier, a source told The Athletic. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who are academically eligible at their new school."

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[volsfan_17]

From this transfer portal list in the link below, we have 6 players leaving. If we are going to bring in 7 transfers (the max) then we'll need one player on the current roster to go in the portal.

I post this because I see people talking like we're bringing in 25 transfers next year.

2022 College Football Transfer Portal

With the transfer rules, covid year(s), etc. I want to get an answer on our numbers this class.

For the transfer numbers in particular. The way I understand the rule is that a school can only bring in the same amount of players as they lose. For example if you have 5 leave, then you can bring 5 in.

The second part of the rule is that regardless of how many players you have leave you can only bring in up to 7 transfers max.

NCAA D-I Council approves 1-year signing limits waiver to account for transfers

"This waiver will allow those programs to replace up to seven departing transfers above the 25-player limit. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who enter the portal after either the end of the institution’s fall term or Dec. 15, 2021, whichever is earlier, a source told The Athletic. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who are academically eligible at their new school."

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

UT's directory shows Fils-Aimee leaving school January of 2021, so I'm not sure how he can be included in this count. I hope I'm wrong, but I think the rule states they had to finish out the current semester and would only count forward (Fall 2021).

 

[Ttucke11]

From this transfer portal list in the link below, we have 6 players leaving. If we are going to bring in 7 transfers (the max) then we'll need one player on the current roster to go in the portal.

I post this because I see people talking like we're bringing in 25 transfers next year.

2022 College Football Transfer Portal

With the transfer rules, covid year(s), etc. I want to get an answer on our numbers this class.

For the transfer numbers in particular. The way I understand the rule is that a school can only bring in the same amount of players as they lose. For example if you have 5 leave, then you can bring 5 in.

The second part of the rule is that regardless of how many players you have leave you can only bring in up to 7 transfers max.

NCAA D-I Council approves 1-year signing limits waiver to account for transfers

"This waiver will allow those programs to replace up to seven departing transfers above the 25-player limit. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who enter the portal after either the end of the institution’s fall term or Dec. 15, 2021, whichever is earlier, a source told The Athletic. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who are academically eligible at their new school."

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe it is 7 extra players whether that is through transfer or signing from HS or JUCO. I don't believe there is a hard cap on transfers you can accept.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

I believe it is 7 extra players whether that is through transfer or signing from HS or JUCO. I don't believe there is a hard cap on transfers you can accept.

Nope 25 for high school and JUCO. 7 from the portal. GBO

 

[white65]

Does anyone have a quote from Austin Price or someone else who’s paid to keep up with this stuff?

 

[ERvolsfan]

From this transfer portal list in the link below, we have 6 players leaving. If we are going to bring in 7 transfers (the max) then we'll need one player on the current roster to go in the portal.

I post this because I see people talking like we're bringing in 25 transfers next year.

2022 College Football Transfer Portal

With the transfer rules, covid year(s), etc. I want to get an answer on our numbers this class.

For the transfer numbers in particular. The way I understand the rule is that a school can only bring in the same amount of players as they lose. For example if you have 5 leave, then you can bring 5 in.

The second part of the rule is that regardless of how many players you have leave you can only bring in up to 7 transfers max.

NCAA D-I Council approves 1-year signing limits waiver to account for transfers

"This waiver will allow those programs to replace up to seven departing transfers above the 25-player limit. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who enter the portal after either the end of the institution’s fall term or Dec. 15, 2021, whichever is earlier, a source told The Athletic. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who are academically eligible at their new school."

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You are correct, we can only bring in as much as we lose up to 7.

With potential rumors of losing few more between now and maybe end of spring practice.

So basically we’re shopping with a cap of 7 between now and Fall Camp, which is why we have to be picky on who we want to bring in since there are only 7 spots, and not to mention we don’t know who will enter portal from other schools after spring practice.

Which is why there may have been some discussion on whether they would accept the OT from UF. Which looks like they will.

I only expect us to accept 3-4 transfers during this winter period and then another 3-4 in spring /summer.

Based on intel my wish list for winter,
- Mincey OT - from UF (Comitted)
- Tank Bigsby RB. - from AUB
- Jared Verse DE - from Albany

Then maybe another WR and rest Defensive help,

 

[Smyrna ATL Vol]

You are correct, we can only bring in as much as we lose up to 7.

With potential rumors of losing few more between now and maybe end of spring practice.

So basically we’re shopping with a cap of 7 between now and Fall Camp, which is why we have to be picky on who we want to bring in since there are only 7 spots, and not to mention we don’t know who will enter portal from other schools after spring practice.

Which is why there may have been some discussion on whether they would accept the OT from UF. Which looks like they will.

I only expect us to accept 3-4 transfers during this winter period and then another 3-4 in spring /summer.

Based on intel my wish list for winter,
- Mincey OT - from UF (Comitted)
- Tank Bigsby RB. - from AUB
- Jared Verse DE - from Albany

Then maybe another WR and rest Defensive help,

I hope Diabute from UF with the others you mentioned. They would all start next year.

 

[Ttucke11]

Nope 25 for high school and JUCO. 7 from the portal. GBO

My mistake, good call.

 

[GUNTERSVOL]

Nope 25 for high school and JUCO. 7 from the portal. GBO

I have asked for smarter guys to clarify too, but I believe the following.

85 on schollie from any source by fall. This past fall you could keep and not COUNT super seniors, but that was a one year deal.

25 initial counters from all sources, HS, JUCO and Portal.

Up to 7 additional transfers only for every player that was a counter this last fall that enters the portal and is allowed to enter another D1 school on schollie. Just entering the portal gets you nothing. Guys that sit there or transfer down don't get a replacement.

But once again if you can add all 32 you still have to be on or under 85 counters on schollie by fall camp (start of athletic year). So do the math and take your copy of the roster see how many additional guys that COULD return, including some guys in 6th year, have to go to make that work. I have heard two numbers on projected returners, 67 and 59, from guys on this site. There is always more than anticipated losses, but even in you use the small number 85- 59 = 26.... this makes my head hurt. None of this made sense to me since we all know we lost 30 in the portal last year.

Once again, smart guys, please show me the error of my ways. I have tried hard, but am fully aware of my own fallibility, and when I forget my wife reminds me.

edited to add due to deferred brain activity....

In the old days you could have carry over counters from previous years and I don't know if that is still possible and if it is how many we might have.

 

[ERvolsfan]

The way I understand the rule is 25 (HS / JUCO) then we up to 7 transfers if you lose at least 7.

So typically only 32 additional players but that’s not getting into all the tricky blue shirt grey shirt options

 

[white65]

The way I understand the rule is 25 (HS / JUCO) then we up to 7 transfers if you lose at least 7.

So typically only 32 additional players but that’s not getting into all the tricky blue shirt grey shirt options

This is what make it even crazier.

After this year though I think the extra 7 transfers go away, and they become part of the 25 total.

 

[ERvolsfan]

This is what make it even crazier.

After this year though I think the extra 7 transfers go away, and they become part of the 25 total.

If that’s the case I haven’t heard / read that….. I understood that the 32 Rule…. 25 &. 7 was the standard rule now…. Because Essentially the transfer aspect is just a wash because you can bring in as many as you lose up to 7. Therefore it’s still basically the same in terms of bringing in 25 (HS / JC) players.

 

[volinbama256]

Copeland from FL?

 

[white65]

So I went back and read over that article I linked.

The extra 7 is a 1 year thing, but I could see them needing to continue and even expand it.

But according to this paragraph below, the 25 players per year limit can be transfers or high school players.

"Current NCAA rules allow programs to sign up to 25 players in a new football signing class — termed “initial counters” — which includes high school players and transfers. Each FBS program also has a maximum of 85 total scholarship players. This means a coach could lose players to graduation and the transfer portal and then sign 25 initial counters but still be below the 85-scholarship player maximum."

 

[Batman1948]

This is what make it even crazier.

After this year though I think the extra 7 transfers go away, and they become part of the 25 total.

If the transfer portal stays the way it is every year, there's no way the NCAA can just allow 25 signees per year. They'll have to come up with a formula that works for all involved. It's a fluid situation and a moving target.

 

[Winchester73]

I was not aware of this limitation. According to that rule, a school will have to decide whether their class will be 25 HS kids or a mix and match of HS/JC/Portal signees. This will be interesting and mean players/teams can’t play around or they’re going to miss spots when the classes fill up. It also could put certain schools in a real bind if they lose 15 players to the portal in, let’s say April, AFTER signing a full class of 25. That means they’re DONE for the cycle … if I’m understanding that correctly.

 

[TideWarrior]

From this transfer portal list in the link below, we have 6 players leaving. If we are going to bring in 7 transfers (the max) then we'll need one player on the current roster to go in the portal.

I post this because I see people talking like we're bringing in 25 transfers next year.

2022 College Football Transfer Portal

With the transfer rules, covid year(s), etc. I want to get an answer on our numbers this class.

For the transfer numbers in particular. The way I understand the rule is that a school can only bring in the same amount of players as they lose. For example if you have 5 leave, then you can bring 5 in.

The second part of the rule is that regardless of how many players you have leave you can only bring in up to 7 transfers max.

NCAA D-I Council approves 1-year signing limits waiver to account for transfers

"This waiver will allow those programs to replace up to seven departing transfers above the 25-player limit. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who enter the portal after either the end of the institution’s fall term or Dec. 15, 2021, whichever is earlier, a source told The Athletic. Schools will only be allowed to replace players who are academically eligible at their new school."

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

That is the one thing many miss with the new rule. If they transferred out in the fall you can not replace them with the new waiver.