The Walking Dead

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hndog609 said:
The whole idea of "gritty reality" was the attraction to this show (and GOT for that matter, though that's unabashedly fantasy based) in that it isn't based on Kirk/Spock/Bones/etc being one group and those poor expendable bastards in the red shirts being another. It makes you more invested in the characters to realize that, as in real life, the script isn't going to magically save everyone for the next episode and safety is not a given. And it's more than just that facet.

Realism is taking "storyline X", which itself can be far fetched and trying to make it work realistically. The goal is to be as true to the idea of "If this situation actually happened how would real people deal with the situation." as possible. Post apocalyptic, alien invasion, zombies the principle is the same.

Granted it's one thing to get oneself twisted into knots over nuances in a show/movie, especially one driven by any kind of outlandish fictional antagonist, but it's another to not appreciate when writers try to keep the viewer engaged with as much realism as possible within the parameters of that fiction. JMHO.
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VolsSportsFan said:
If it were presented as a completely farcical reality (i.e. Z Nation), then you might have a point. But it's not presented that way, it's present as "gritty and realistic". Also it's long been a standard that even in fantasy scenarios, you pick the reality and stick with it. You don't change the rules to fit a narrative.

That's why it's perfectly reasonably to complain about why a van landed the wrong way (because there's no indication given that physics work differently in this reality) and why it was silly for Glenn to land in an opened up area when 2 seconds earlier there were walkers on top of each other (because there's no indication that walkers clear out for falling Koreans).

There's nitpicking, and there's pointing out very flawed writing/filming.
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2 great posts. thanks for saving me the time :good!:

making the whole "this show is about zombies, why so serious?? lulz" argument is such a lame cop out excuse.

we expect reality within the universe they create.

besides, i don't think any of us are all that hung up about it, just because we critique each episode. sure i'm a little disappointed that the show does not consistently reach the potential it should have, but it's not the end of the world. there's plenty of great tv and film out there to explore.
 
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WarDamnVols said:
2 great posts. thanks for saving me the time :good!:

making the whole "this show is about zombies, why so serious?? lulz" argument is such a lame cop out excuse.

we expect reality within the universe they create.

besides, i don't think any of us are all that hung up about it, just because we critique each episode. sure i'm a little disappointed that the show does not consistently reach the potential it should have, but it's not the end of the world. there's plenty of great tv and film out there to explore.
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The universe they created is a universe where the heroes regularly defy all logic to keep surviving. So if anything, I would have been upset if they killed Glen in such a non dramatic way. This whole town defies logic.
 
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Coug said:
I'm not in the group calling the writing crap. I'm laughing at you guys pissed that Glenn is alive. It's not completely outrageous that he survived. I'm still more pissed at that damn van scene than anything else I've seen on this show. What will really be stupid is if they did all of that with Glenn only to kill him shortly after. That will be complete dumbassery.



I honestly can't remember. Did they actually show what that truck hit before it hit the wall?
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The truck driven by a Wolf that Spencer shot...once he killed the driver, the truck careened off the church tower before hitting the wall of Alexandria. Was actually realistic in that if it doesn't hit the tower, it would have plowed through the wall. The truck blocked the exit to the tower. Made it difficult for Spencer to get out.

My question is that they left the tower standing that close to their protective wall, but the only access was outside Alexandria.. Why not completely block the stairs and build a catwalk to the upper level? Or tear it down to prevent attack through it? Or to allow it to fall on the wall?
 
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Because it's a TV show and the horde needs a way into the city so that we can up the body count and move on to the next story arc.
 
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butchna said:
Case em on a regular basis...I don't think they like it. :matrix:
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You are doing it wrong...

GP Armory has an ID at main entry guard station for you. Identity yourself as Captain Glenn Butchna of USAF. You are to report to Major Hershel Volsdoc at the infirmary.
Just laugh when they ask about your ID photo (it's your VN avi)

:)
 
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Weezy said:
Because it's a TV show and the horde needs a way into the city so that we can up the body count and move on to the next story arc.
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Finally, but can I have some backstory on Deannas son first? Maybe a 90 min episode
 
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VolsDoc81TX said:
You are doing it wrong...

GP Armory has an ID at main entry guard station for you. Identity yourself as Captain Glenn Butchna of USAF. You are to report to Major Hershel Volsdoc at the infirmary.
Just laugh when they ask about your ID photo (it's your VN avi)

:)
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That smoking pooch has gotten me more free stuff than my military ID ever did. :)
 
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BadJerry20 said:
I will stab you both
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bigdaddy said:
No spoilers please, haven't even started it
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Start it asap. I like Walking Dead and all but doesnt come close to the epic GoT. And I just want to say this about the Glenn fake death. I'm glad they didn't kill him there. Would of been a lame way for him to go, and don't see how it would further the story much with no one seeing him die. And everyone is like calling BS on him making it out of that situation. Why? Have any of you had a body fall on you while its being eaten by walkers? Maybe all the zombies were distracted by Nicolas guts and they were going for them. Its called luck. Glenn has a lot of it, its his thing to get out of tough situations. Acting like it would be impossible to get really lucky is insane. People get very lucky and have "miracles" in the real world. He just got lucky. Its nowhere near as bad as the van flip that defys logic. Getting lucky doesn't defy logic.
 
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UTK said:
Start it asap. I like Walking Dead and all but doesnt come close to the epic GoT. And I just want to say this about the Gleen fake death. I'm glad they didn't kill him there. Would of been a lame way for him to go, and don't see how it would further the story much with no one seeing him die. And everyone is like calling BS on him making it out of that situation. Why? Have any of you had a body fall on you while its being eaten by walkers? Maybe all the zombies were distracted by Nicolas guts and they were going for them. Its called luck. Glenn has a lot of it, its his thing to get out of tough situations. Acting like it would be impossible to get really lucky is insane. People get very lucky and has "miracles" in the real world. He just got lucky. Its nowhere near as bad as the van flip that defys logic. Getting lucky doesn't defy logic.
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Yep, back in '87. good friend sacrificed himself by throwing his body over mine, trying to protect me from the ravaging swarm of zombies that were upon us. not only did i have to suffer watching my friend get torn limb from limb, but i still got two bite marks on my left arm and another chunk taken out of my right leg. thankfully, an old hermit by the name of Bill was nearby and came to my rescue. sadly, in order to truly save me, he had to hack my arm and my leg off with a rusty machete. it was horrible. i still have nightmares and nightly cold sweats thinking back to that tragic day. i still get the shakes every time i see a rusty machete, or piss my pants when i meet someone named Bill. life is still a struggle every day. at least i was lucky though.

thanks for reminding me of that hellish nightmare though bub.
 
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Wow UTK way to be a ****, you insensitive jerk. I'm going on a hungry strike till you are removed from this thread. #StayStrongWar #BanUTK
 
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BadJerry20 said:
Wow UTK way to be a ****, you insensitive jerk. I'm going on a hungry strike till you are removed from this thread. #StayStrongWar #BanUTK
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Hey, gotta face your past to get over it. He can overcome it, he didn't get as lucky as Glenn, but lucky enough to still be alive right? =D
 
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bigdaddy said:
Right with you Swil. Magically a horde of what looked like 50+ zombies went away after he stabs like two. This show used to be good for being on the edge now it cowers to th masses. I don't even pay that much attention to it anymore when I watch. Just following the plot at this point and that has become stale. Prob the last season for me
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bigdaddy said:
So those zombies just walk away because of a can? After the smell of fresh blood is all over Glenn and he is actively attacking them? No way. It's bad writing and I agree with WarVols that it's as bad as the van.
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Couldn't have answered either of these posts better than Burnt did.

UTK said:
Start it asap. I like Walking Dead and all but doesnt come close to the epic GoT. And I just want to say this about the Glenn fake death. I'm glad they didn't kill him there. Would of been a lame way for him to go, and don't see how it would further the story much with no one seeing him die. And everyone is like calling BS on him making it out of that situation. Why? Have any of you had a body fall on you while its being eaten by walkers? Maybe all the zombies were distracted by Nicolas guts and they were going for them. Its called luck. Glenn has a lot of it, its his thing to get out of tough situations. Acting like it would be impossible to get really lucky is insane. People get very lucky and have "miracles" in the real world. He just got lucky. Its nowhere near as bad as the van flip that defys logic. Getting lucky doesn't defy logic.
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Nicely put UTK!

VolsDoc81TX said:
The truck driven by a Wolf that Spencer shot...once he killed the driver, the truck careened off the church tower before hitting the wall of Alexandria. Was actually realistic in that if it doesn't hit the tower, it would have plowed through the wall. The truck blocked the exit to the tower. Made it difficult for Spencer to get out.

My question is that they left the tower standing that close to their protective wall, but the only access was outside Alexandria.. Why not completely block the stairs and build a catwalk to the upper level? Or tear it down to prevent attack through it? Or to allow it to fall on the wall?
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Thanks VolDoc!
 
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