This Week's Coach's Poll

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USA Today Coaches' Poll
RK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS
1 Florida (58) 4-0 1474 1
2 Texas (1) 4-0 1410 2
3 Alabama 4-0 1364 3
4 LSU 4-0 1226 7
5 Boise State 4-0 1144 8
6 Virginia Tech 3-1 1091 12
7 USC 3-1 1081 10
8 Oklahoma 2-1 1055 9
9 Ohio State 3-1 1036 11
10 TCU 3-0 928 14
11 Cincinnati 4-0 848 15
12 Oklahoma State 3-1 665 16
13 Penn State 3-1 627 4
14 Georgia 3-1 616 17
15 Houston 3-0 539 23
16 Kansas 4-0 508 19
17 Iowa 4-0 462 NR
18 Mississippi 2-1 424 5
19 California 3-1 356 6
20 Michigan 4-0 304 22
21 Miami (FL) 2-1 298 13
21 Brigham Young 3-1 298 20
23 Missouri 4-0 295 21
24 Nebraska 3-1 242 24
25 Oregon 3-1 198 NR

2009 NCAA College Football Polls and Rankings for Week 5 - ESPN
 
#3
#3
LSU moves up 3 spots by nearly having their ass handed to them by MSU. I'm not buying this
 
#4
#4
LSU moves up 3 spots by nearly having their ass handed to them by MSU. I'm not buying this

all the other undefeated top ten teams lost. LSU can't drop in that case

Unless you think Cincinnati, Kansas, and Iowa should all be able to jump into the top ten from their various lower positions the previous week
 
#7
#7
If you're going to find fault in the BCS, a TCU-BSU Championship isn't in the cards. A championship going to one of those guys was more likely in the old system.
 
#8
#8
If you're going to find fault in the BCS, a TCU-BSU Championship isn't in the cards. A championship going to one of those guys was more likely in the old system.

I'm with you, besides, we have seen what happened 3 out of the 4 times a non BCS school has played in a BCS game... I wouldn't be so quick to write them off. I seriously doubt one of BSU and TCU can pull it off this year, but I didn't think Utah would bend Alabama over and make them like it either.
 
#9
#9
Aren't the rules written in a way that would make a BSU-TCU matchup impossible in the NC anyways? A loss here and there by some top ten teams would make for an interesting selection process.
 
#11
#11
I really dont want to see something like a Boise - TCU championship game :( ....

If they are the 2 best teams then I sure as heck want to see them play. Why would you not want the 2 best teams to play for the NC if that's the case?

It would just be awful if the Big 12 and SEC don't play in the NC every year! :cray:
 
#12
#12
Personally, if Boise State and TCU played in the national championship game, I'd love it. Why? Because, it would be getting us one step closer to a playoff.
 
#13
#13
OM over UM is just one of the indicators that this poll is junk.

Which UM? Miami got drilled and Missouri is a joke like they are every year, Michigan has a pretty good team, but I still think Ole Miss would handle them.
 
#14
#14
Personally, if Boise State and TCU played in the national championship game, I'd love it. Why? Because, it would be getting us one step closer to a playoff.

we're never getting any steps closer to a playoff till the schools stop receiving lots of money and profit from bowl games. Till that happens, nothing's going to change despite anyone's whining
 
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#15
If they are the 2 best teams then I sure as heck want to see them play. Why would you not want the 2 best teams to play for the NC if that's the case?

It would just be awful if the Big 12 and SEC don't play in the NC every year! :cray:

No, I just dont they're the best teams...but the polls dont do who's the best, they do who lost the least recent (or even just not last week) many times.

I also just think that a Boise-TCU would be a messy game
 
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#16
Explain messy... I'd argue TCU has one of top 10 defenses in the nation. I'm 99% sure Boise will be joining the MWC next season, although I don't want them and their stupid blue turf. The only thing messy about BSU is their academics. Not up to MWC standards.
 
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Explain messy... I'd argue TCU has one of top 10 defenses in the nation. I'm 99% sure Boise will be joining the MWC next season, although I don't want them and their stupid blue turf. The only thing messy about BSU is their academics. Not up to MWC standards.

Do you know something I don't? Or am I just wildly out of the loop?

If that happens, the Mountain West has a serious case to join the BCS.
 
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Do you know something I don't? Or am I just wildly out of the loop?

If that happens, the Mountain West has a serious case to join the BCS.

The MWC did all the leg work this year to prep the BCS for the next period. They got the word out in the press. They pushed in Congress. They are asking for a DOJ investigation. Basically, they're letting the BCS and the country know that they want in and we're willing to do anything to accomplish that. They also let the BCS know that there's a lawsuit waiting for them if they violate anti-trust issues. The BCS will be forced to honor the Louisville loophole and they know it.

If you look at the MWC first year evaluation criteria, we're ahead of a couple of conferences with the rank of our champion, and one with the number of teams in the top 25. If we added Boise we would have four teams in the top 25 in year one of the evaluation period.

If you invite Boise after this season the first three years of the evaluation period are with Boise in the Wac. That allows Utah, BYU, and TCU to rack up more top 25 finishes while Boise dominates the Wac. All of those results will count for us. It's likely that Boise is going to finish in the top 25 every year they're in the Wac, their champion may even finish ranked higher than ours during those seasons.

It sets up nicely for publicity for the league as well. We've already had our most notable season in the press this past year. If the MWC extends an invitation to Boise st. next year we'll be in the press all summer again. In fact, our commissioner could even make a public appeal to get into the BCS next summer, since we would be a different stronger league then we were this year.

In order for Boise's records to count for the MWC, they have to play one season in our league during the evaluation period. The only way to count that is to invite Boise after the following sports season. It takes one year for them to get out of the Wac, so they would come in during the last year of the evaluation period.

If you look at the evaluation criteria two of them are very clear. The number of teams in the top 25 is clear. The rank of our conference champion is clear. The other criteria is based on voodoo and computer formulas that the BCS designed. No one knows what goes into determining this criteria. Supposedly it's based on the overall strength of the league. The math behind it is vague, and you can bet it's biased towards the BCS. We're always going to finish below every BCS conference in that criteria, because that's what the BCS added it for: to keep us out. Basically, we have to be better than one of the BCS leagues in the other two criteria over a four year period. If we do that, the anti-trust suit is a win for us. If we don't, we won't get in.

The BCS isn't going to come out and tell us how to get into their monopoly. They don't want us in. Craig knows it. If we ask them if adding Boise will get us an AQ they will say no. If we ask them if we can get in just how we are the answer is no. The only way to do that is to beat a current BCS conference in the evaluation criteria. Craig knows that. The only way Boise's record will count for the MWC is to invite them after this season. Craig knows that as well. The BCS isn't going to say "here's your aq". We have to get it on our own. We can beat a BCS league in two of three criteria over a four year period, even with the mysterious third criteria always going to the BCS leagues. However, it's going to be extremely difficult to get that done with the current 9 teams in our league. With Boise playing three years in the WAC, it's not going to be that hard.

The problem with holding the Ace card: the BCS isn't going to tell us when to play it. They're going to try and trump our ace with the three of spades. We have to know when to play the ace. Holding it until the four year evaluation is over turns that Ace into the two of diamonds.

I've got money that says Boise is already invited and it's going to be made public after the following sports year. It gives the MWC the best possible chance of attaining an AQ during our next evaluation. If the BCS doesn't honor the Louisville loophole that's a lawsuit we can win. If we beat one of their leagues in two out of three criteria for the majority of the four year evaluation and we don't gain an AQ, that's an anti-trust suit we will win. I think that's the presidents goal: either get the AQ or bring down the whole system with a lawsuit WE CAN WIN.

Boise definitely gives us our strongest hand of cards. Inviting them next summer makes our hand even stronger. The problem with the Boise card, if we don't play it we're chucking that card in the discard pile.

So Basiclly the MWC Commish is keeping the Boise state card in his hip pocket, waiting for the perfect time to play it.

Here is a recent article pretty much saying its a done deal with Boise in the MWC next year: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/259639-bcs-numbers-may-force-the-mwc-to-add-boise-state/

BSU was denied entry to the MWC last season as part of the MWC's plan to become AQ. My only problem with BSU is their facilities are not up to par, the blue turf, and their academics. Also, their fans are some of the dumbest in the west. 9 teams makes a perfect conference IMO and keeps scheduling/rivalries playing every year. Don't even get me started why the WAC-16 never worked.
 
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The MWC did all the leg work this year to prep the BCS for the next period. They got the word out in the press. They pushed in Congress. They are asking for a DOJ investigation. Basically, they're letting the BCS and the country know that they want in and we're willing to do anything to accomplish that. They also let the BCS know that there's a lawsuit waiting for them if they violate anti-trust issues. The BCS will be forced to honor the Louisville loophole and they know it.

If you look at the MWC first year evaluation criteria, we're ahead of a couple of conferences with the rank of our champion, and one with the number of teams in the top 25. If we added Boise we would have four teams in the top 25 in year one of the evaluation period.

If you invite Boise after this season the first three years of the evaluation period are with Boise in the Wac. That allows Utah, BYU, and TCU to rack up more top 25 finishes while Boise dominates the Wac. All of those results will count for us. It's likely that Boise is going to finish in the top 25 every year they're in the Wac, their champion may even finish ranked higher than ours during those seasons.

It sets up nicely for publicity for the league as well. We've already had our most notable season in the press this past year. If the MWC extends an invitation to Boise st. next year we'll be in the press all summer again. In fact, our commissioner could even make a public appeal to get into the BCS next summer, since we would be a different stronger league then we were this year.

In order for Boise's records to count for the MWC, they have to play one season in our league during the evaluation period. The only way to count that is to invite Boise after the following sports season. It takes one year for them to get out of the Wac, so they would come in during the last year of the evaluation period.

If you look at the evaluation criteria two of them are very clear. The number of teams in the top 25 is clear. The rank of our conference champion is clear. The other criteria is based on voodoo and computer formulas that the BCS designed. No one knows what goes into determining this criteria. Supposedly it's based on the overall strength of the league. The math behind it is vague, and you can bet it's biased towards the BCS. We're always going to finish below every BCS conference in that criteria, because that's what the BCS added it for: to keep us out. Basically, we have to be better than one of the BCS leagues in the other two criteria over a four year period. If we do that, the anti-trust suit is a win for us. If we don't, we won't get in.

The BCS isn't going to come out and tell us how to get into their monopoly. They don't want us in. Craig knows it. If we ask them if adding Boise will get us an AQ they will say no. If we ask them if we can get in just how we are the answer is no. The only way to do that is to beat a current BCS conference in the evaluation criteria. Craig knows that. The only way Boise's record will count for the MWC is to invite them after this season. Craig knows that as well. The BCS isn't going to say "here's your aq". We have to get it on our own. We can beat a BCS league in two of three criteria over a four year period, even with the mysterious third criteria always going to the BCS leagues. However, it's going to be extremely difficult to get that done with the current 9 teams in our league. With Boise playing three years in the WAC, it's not going to be that hard.

The problem with holding the Ace card: the BCS isn't going to tell us when to play it. They're going to try and trump our ace with the three of spades. We have to know when to play the ace. Holding it until the four year evaluation is over turns that Ace into the two of diamonds.

I've got money that says Boise is already invited and it's going to be made public after the following sports year. It gives the MWC the best possible chance of attaining an AQ during our next evaluation. If the BCS doesn't honor the Louisville loophole that's a lawsuit we can win. If we beat one of their leagues in two out of three criteria for the majority of the four year evaluation and we don't gain an AQ, that's an anti-trust suit we will win. I think that's the presidents goal: either get the AQ or bring down the whole system with a lawsuit WE CAN WIN.

Boise definitely gives us our strongest hand of cards. Inviting them next summer makes our hand even stronger. The problem with the Boise card, if we don't play it we're chucking that card in the discard pile.

So Basiclly the MWC Commish is keeping the Boise state card in his hip pocket, waiting for the perfect time to play it.

Here is a recent article pretty much saying its a done deal with Boise in the MWC next year: Boise State May Force Its Way into Mountain West with BCS Numbers | Bleacher Report

BSU was denied entry to the MWC last season as part of the MWC's plan to become AQ. My only problem with BSU is their facilities are not up to par, the blue turf, and their academics. Also, their fans are some of the dumbest in the west. 9 teams makes a perfect conference IMO and keeps scheduling/rivalries playing every year. Don't even get me started why the WAC-16 never worked.

Good read, and good stuff.
 

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