Thoughts about where we could end up with Recruiting

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pualsline

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Alabama pretty well has #1 locked up on rivals

Ohio St. is behind us by 193 points
They need one person ranked 5.7 and 5.8 in order to pass us. (this is without including bonus points)

Georgia only needs 3 players with a 5.6 rating. For Georgia, they will most likely gain those sorts of recruits.

Now our numbers will increase with more commits (such as the Berry twins)

For those that don't know, rivals will only count your top 20 recruits towards your totals. If you sign 28 it doesn't matter. Only your top rated 20 count.

Florida St, Miami, Kentucky, and Texas all have 24 commits. So their commits can only improve over the weaker ones. They are having to make up 246 points. That is just to much to cover unless they get a top 5 recruit.

Clemson is interesting because they still have 3 spots that will count towards the rankings and are in on some big recruits. They are 583 points behind. Though I don't think they have enough to catch us.

Florida is currently ranked 18th. They have 750 points to make up with 5 recruits. I believe they are in on several 5 star recruits. If they land 2 of them then they are in the mix.

I think it ends up

1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3.Ohio St.
4.Tennessee
5. Florida
 
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pualsline said:
Alabama pretty well has #1 locked up on rivals

Ohio St. is behind us by 193 points
They need one person ranked 5.7 and 5.8 in order to pass us. (this is without including bonus points)

Georgia only needs 3 players with a 5.6 rating. For Georgia, they will most likely gain those sorts of recruits.

Now our numbers will increase with more commits (such as the Berry twins)

For those that don't know, rivals will only count your top 20 recruits towards your totals. If you sign 28 it doesn't matter. Only your top rated 20 count.

Florida St, Miami, Kentucky, and Texas all have 24 commits. So their commits can only improve over the weaker ones. They are having to make up 246 points. That is just to much to cover unless they get a top 5 recruit.

Clemson is interesting because they still have 3 spots that will count towards the rankings and are in on some big recruits. They are 583 points behind. Though I don't think they have enough to catch us.

Florida is currently ranked 18th. They have 750 points to make up with 5 recruits. I believe they are in on several 5 star recruits. If they land 2 of them then they are in the mix.

I think it ends up

1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3.Ohio St.
4.Tennessee
5. Florida
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This is a recipe for being relevant again. I'll take that kind of finish anytime!
 
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I just hope the "heralded recruits" live up to their billing. We've had our share of 5* busts. If the 4-5* live up to expectations and CBJ can "coach up" some 3*s, then I like very much our chances as long as everyone pays attention to fundamentals and plays like a team.

Speaking of which, and this is just my opinion, I wish for at least one season (team 118?) that they'd take the names off the backs of jerseys. Most avid football fans know who they are anyway. I think this promotes team play at the expense of individualism.
 
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Good write up OP, I've been thinkin 3/4 for a sometime.
Those numbers are very close, it comes down to development of the players, something we've not been good at for some time.

Butch get's it !
 
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pualsline said:
I think it ends up

1. Alabama
2. Georgia
3.Ohio St.
4.Tennessee
5. Florida
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If we finish in the Top 5, especially with how monster some of those other classes are shaping up, I've got to call that an amazing first year of recruiting for Butch and Tennessee!
 
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Doesn't it show a flaw in the ranking system when only 20 players count towards the rankings? Players 21-28 may include solid contributors or a kicker/punter that are game changers.

That's 1 of many reasons recruiting rankings are flawed.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Doesn't it show a flaw in the ranking system when only 20 players count towards the rankings? Players 21-28 may include solid contributors or a kicker/punter that are game changers.

That's 1 of many reasons recruiting rankings are flawed.
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there has to be a limit somewhere, 20 is just a good of limit as anywhere.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Doesn't it show a flaw in the ranking system when only 20 players count towards the rankings? Players 21-28 may include solid contributors or a kicker/punter that are game changers.

That's 1 of many reasons recruiting rankings are flawed.
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You could just make up an all new ranking system that makes the most sense to you. (Just make sure we're no. 1) In the end, it'll mean just as much as Rivals'.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
You could just make up an all new ranking system that makes the most sense to you. (Just make sure we're no. 1) In the end, it'll mean just as much as Rivals'.
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And that will happen on here. If UT is ranked higher on ESPN that's the one that will be used by the masses on here. They'll say Rivals hate UT

You're right. The bottom line is what is done with the talent once it's on campus.

There was a poster on here that tried to tell me that Bryce Brown was a success at UT because he's on an NFL roster. WTF?
 
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You sublet an apartment in this thread Boca? :rtfm::confused:
 
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Gotta think that taking out the 5.6 Kameel, grayshirting Dews, and watching Lambert get the bump once they reevaluate JUCOs, that our numbers will bump up. "Losing" 2 3*s and a 2* in favor of high-end 4*s will only boost the ranking.
 
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Boca Vol said:
And that will happen on here. If UT is ranked higher on ESPN that's the one that will be used by the masses on here. They'll say Rivals hate UT

You're right. The bottom line is what is done with the talent once it's on campus.

There was a poster on here that tried to tell me that Bryce Brown was a success at UT because he's on an NFL roster. WTF?
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To be fair, he was successful in the time he was here. He had a respectable YPC even though he played through injuries all season.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Doesn't it show a flaw in the ranking system when only 20 players count towards the rankings? Players 21-28 may include solid contributors or a kicker/punter that are game changers.

That's 1 of many reasons recruiting rankings are flawed.
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Pretty sure that, while you don't get credit for the actual player because that K is a 5.5, you still get the bonus credit for him being top 5 or something to that effect
 
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crusse10 said:
To be fair, he was successful in the time he was here. He had a respectable YPC even though he played through injuries all season.
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#1 recruit in the nation successful?

He had a decent YPC but I wouldn't say his season stood out in any way, much less making NFL scouts drool over him.
 
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Boca Vol said:
#1 recruit in the nation successful?

He had a decent YPC but I wouldn't say his season stood out in any way, much less making NFL scouts drool over him.
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I mean...Jadeveon didn't look like the #1 recruit in the nation his freshman year, but his sophomore year he most certainly did.

Brown was our #2 back his freshman year and took carries from a guy who was drafted in the 2nd round. In the time he was on the field, he put up good numbers, even with said injury. I definitely would have rather seen '10, '11, and '12 with Bryce Brown in the backfield than the smorgasbord of mediocrity that existed in his place.
 
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I agree with you about his talent. But his tenure at UT wasn't what I had hope for the #1 recruit.

Kind of like Cam Newton at UF. He was much more successful at Auburn.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I agree with you about his talent. But his tenure at UT wasn't what I had hope for the #1 recruit.
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I contend that if his dad hadn't messed with his head following that first season, that he'd have been a 1st rounder. Hell, he steals endzone carries from Shady as a 7th rounder after basically taking off 2 years.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I agree with you about his talent. But his tenure at UT wasn't what I had hope for the #1 recruit.

Kind of like Cam Newton at UF. He was much more successful at Auburn.
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But he didn't even play at Florida. It's hard to say that a freshman who had to play behind a 2nd round draft pick (in the SEC) underperformed, considering he was over 4 YPC and had a lingering injury with 4 TDs.
 
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Boca Vol said:
I would think it would make more sense to average what you have...not cut it off at an arbitrary number.
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I think you get a clearer picture if you analyze all of the scouting and ranking services. Scout which does include all of your recruits - has us currently ranked second and could easily end up 2nd or 3rd this year -- Scout probably gives a clearer picture of this years recruiting class and the impact that they will have on our roster --- simply because we are so terribly thin at most positions and most of this class will have an impact in the two deep next year.
 
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I don't think the ranking means that much,especially this year...
Butch is recruiting speed,needs,depth,and straight ballers...
these are much more important than getting 20 5* rb's ...
plus bUTch already has a 5* RB...
 
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