Thoughts on UT QB's

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MikeTheVol

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There was a lot of speculation during the spring and summer as to whether Butch would start a true freshman at QB if they displayed enough ability and maturity. I think you'd have to put yourself in Butch's situation to understand why he started Worley. I think most of us would agree that he (Worley) just looks lost, hesitant, and uncertain a good deal of the time. Admittedly, at times he has performed well, with the help of a few circus catches. But, back to my point. In my opinion, Butch knew who the better athlete or athletes are but he also knew that if he were to start either Dobbs or Ferguson over Worley or Peterman, that one or both of them would likely transfer to a school where they knew they could be top dog. If that had happened, then we'd be stuck with an unproven true freshman (albeit a gifted one) as the starter and another true freshman as his back up. I would venture to say that Butch considered these things when making his final decision. Argue, comment, criticize or whatever, that's why I posted it, to stir.
 
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Based on everything I've heard from the coaches and press who have seen Worley and Dobbs at practice, while Dobbs has shown some flashes Worley was the clear starter. Also they say what Dobbs showed last weekend was a suprise to them. However, that could all be a smokescreen.
 
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Doesn't matter what Butch's thought process was. Dobbs is the starter now, like it or not, with Ferguson the back-up.
 
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MikeTheVol said:
There was a lot of speculation during the spring and summer as to whether Butch would start a true freshman at QB if they displayed enough ability and maturity. I think you'd have to put yourself in Butch's situation to understand why he started Worley. I think most of us would agree that he (Worley) just looks lost, hesitant, and uncertain a good deal of the time. Admittedly, at times he has performed well, with the help of a few circus catches. But, back to my point. In my opinion, Butch knew who the better athlete or athletes are but he also knew that if he were to start either Dobbs or Ferguson over Worley or Peterman, that one or both of them would likely transfer to a school where they knew they could be top dog. If that had happened, then we'd be stuck with an unproven true freshman (albeit a gifted one) as the starter and another true freshman as his back up. I would venture to say that Butch considered these things when making his final decision. Argue, comment, criticize or whatever, that's why I posted it, to stir.
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I don't agree with the bolded at all personally. For the most part I think Worley seems pretty confident out there.
 
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Have to agree with the OP...Worley did look lost and hesitants for too long..alot of passes thrown off target biggest thing about Worley that bugs me and he don't really set his feet when he throws probly be hell a lot better if he learned to set before he throws...that being said dobb looked decent against bama he moved the ball got some plays to get us some points im excited to see what happens tomorrow night!!
 
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MikeTheVol said:
There was a lot of speculation during the spring and summer as to whether Butch would start a true freshman at QB if they displayed enough ability and maturity. I think you'd have to put yourself in Butch's situation to understand why he started Worley. I think most of us would agree that he (Worley) just looks lost, hesitant, and uncertain a good deal of the time. Admittedly, at times he has performed well, with the help of a few circus catches. But, back to my point. In my opinion, Butch knew who the better athlete or athletes are but he also knew that if he were to start either Dobbs or Ferguson over Worley or Peterman, that one or both of them would likely transfer to a school where they knew they could be top dog. If that had happened, then we'd be stuck with an unproven true freshman (albeit a gifted one) as the starter and another true freshman as his back up. I would venture to say that Butch considered these things when making his final decision. Argue, comment, criticize or whatever, that's why I posted it, to stir.
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I think his thought process was "Let's redshirt the freshmen this year", then injuries changed his plans.

I highly doubt he was trying to trick Worley/Peterman into staying.
 
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MikeTheVol said:
There was a lot of speculation during the spring and summer as to whether Butch would start a true freshman at QB if they displayed enough ability and maturity. I think you'd have to put yourself in Butch's situation to understand why he started Worley. I think most of us would agree that he (Worley) just looks lost, hesitant, and uncertain a good deal of the time. Admittedly, at times he has performed well, with the help of a few circus catches. But, back to my point. In my opinion, Butch knew who the better athlete or athletes are but he also knew that if he were to start either Dobbs or Ferguson over Worley or Peterman, that one or both of them would likely transfer to a school where they knew they could be top dog. If that had happened, then we'd be stuck with an unproven true freshman (albeit a gifted one) as the starter and another true freshman as his back up. I would venture to say that Butch considered these things when making his final decision. Argue, comment, criticize or whatever, that's why I posted it, to stir.
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Have we really seen enough of Peterman, or Dobbs?
 
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MikeTheVol said:
There was a lot of speculation during the spring and summer as to whether Butch would start a true freshman at QB if they displayed enough ability and maturity. I think you'd have to put yourself in Butch's situation to understand why he started Worley. I think most of us would agree that he (Worley) just looks lost, hesitant, and uncertain a good deal of the time. Admittedly, at times he has performed well, with the help of a few circus catches. But, back to my point. In my opinion, Butch knew who the better athlete or athletes are but he also knew that if he were to start either Dobbs or Ferguson over Worley or Peterman, that one or both of them would likely transfer to a school where they knew they could be top dog. If that had happened, then we'd be stuck with an unproven true freshman (albeit a gifted one) as the starter and another true freshman as his back up. I would venture to say that Butch considered these things when making his final decision. Argue, comment, criticize or whatever, that's why I posted it, to stir.
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I think he started Worley because he wanted to save the redshirts and develop the young talent. The logic is that Worley doesn't have but two years of eligibility left and the freshman have their whole careers, he knows that year one is critical to his coaching tenure but also that there's a bit more leeway given considering the circumstances. I think it was a good idea to save the redshirts and give Dobbs and Ferguson a year to develop in his system and if Worley and Peterson weren't hurt we wouldn't be seeing Dobbs. Butch does everything for a reason, he's not an impulse driven man.
 
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What is up with all the thoughts of conspiracy on QB? Do I think Butch thought Worley was the perfect fit? No. I think he went with Justin because at the time he was showing better at practice. I think Butch wouldn't mind having the AP and WK games back to throw one or both of the freshman in to have gotten some game exp now. I also think he probably wishes he had just stuck with Justin in the FL game.
 
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Butch kept saying all year that he would play the QB that gave us the best chance to win. That means either every other QB on the roster is terrible (because Worley is mediocre at best), he and his staff aren't very good at evaluating QBs or he was lying. Remember, Butch is basically king of the coach speak, so I wouldn't rule out lying.
 
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Nobody hopes that Dobbs succeeds more than I do. That being said, I feel sorry for him if he fails. This place will eat him alive and then cast him away like yesterday's trash.
 
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Dobbs was serving a secret suspension, kind of like Michael Jordan. And they're both black, so it all adds up.
 
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omghulkhands said:
Butch kept saying all year that he would play the QB that gave us the best chance to win. That means either every other QB on the roster is terrible (because Worley is mediocre at best), he and his staff aren't very good at evaluating QBs or he was lying. Remember, Butch is basically king of the coach speak, so I wouldn't rule out lying.
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If you are a golfer you will understand this..what you got at the range may not be what you have on the course. Now apply that to QB's in practice and live game action on an SEC Saturday. The coaches are putting on the field the guy they think in the moment gives them the best chance to win. Right now that's Dobbs probably more because he's healthy than anything else. Let's all hope he's one of those guys who comes alive when the lights come on and the National TV cameras are rolling. Otherwise the rest of the season may look like this..:mf_surrender:
 
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There is no conspiracy outside of the ones dreamt up in some people's heads. It is just a case of not accepting the idea that Worley was the best we had at the time. God help the theorists if that turns out to be a fact and god help Dobbs.
 
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Worley is hurt, Peterman is recovering, Ferguson is recovering, Dobbs is healthy.

Guess who is starting?


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