Three Years Ago This Week (A little long)

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We were in the midst of a three game winning streak that would eventually turn into 4 and get us into a bowl game. We had a young gunslinger QB, two stud freshmen wide receivers and the sky seemed like the limit. Some of the topics discussed included...
1)Would Bray be a top 5 or top ten pick after his junior year?
2)Would we go to the SECCG next year or the year after?
And my favorite(3) Would the boosters pony up the money to keep Dooley when Georgia fired Richt???

Not one of these predictions came true, but yet the same group of Nostradamuses is here again to tell us that they know for sure that CBJ will or won't get it done, or Dobbs won't be the QB next year. Volnation may be the only entity that makes the Knoxville Weather Bureau seem accurate. Feel free, to express frustration, hell I know I'm mad. But if anything has been learned in recent history, it's that we basically have no way to predict what will happen, and end up looking foolish when we say we KNOW what will happen. If you don't believe me, check the Bonn Bell thread, Gruden, or any of the threads from 4 years ago where posters argued over how many 1 classes Kiffin would pull in. Happy Thanksgiving!
 
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sonofUT62 said:
We were in the midst of a three game winning streak that would eventually turn into 4 and get us into a bowl game. We had a young gunslinger QB, two stud freshmen wide receivers and the sky seemed like the limit. Some of the topics discussed included...
1)Would Bray be a top 5 or top ten pick after his junior year?
2)Would we go to the SECCG next year or the year after?
And my favorite(3) Would the boosters pony up the money to keep Dooley when Georgia fired Richt???

Not one of these predictions came true, but yet the same group of Nostradumbasses is here again to tell us that they know for sure that CBJ will or won't get it done, or Dobbs won't be the QB next year. Volnation may be the only entity that makes the Knoxville Weather Bureau seem accurate. Feel free, to express frustration, hell I know I'm mad. But if anything has been learned in recent history, it's that we basically have no way to predict what will happen, and end up looking foolish when we say we KNOW what will happen. If you don't believe me, check the Bonn Bell thread, Gruden, or any of the threads from 4 years ago where posters argued over how many 1 classes Kiffin would pull in. Happy Thanksgiving!
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sonofUT62 said:
We were in the midst of a three game winning streak that would eventually turn into 4 and get us into a bowl game. We had a young gunslinger QB, two stud freshmen wide receivers and the sky seemed like the limit. Some of the topics discussed included...
1)Would Bray be a top 5 or top ten pick after his junior year?
2)Would we go to the SECCG next year or the year after?
And my favorite(3) Would the boosters pony up the money to keep Dooley when Georgia fired Richt???

Not one of these predictions came true, but yet the same group of Nostradamuses is here again to tell us that they know for sure that CBJ will or won't get it done, or Dobbs won't be the QB next year. Volnation may be the only entity that makes the Knoxville Weather Bureau seem accurate. Feel free, to express frustration, hell I know I'm mad. But if anything has been learned in recent history, it's that we basically have no way to predict what will happen, and end up looking foolish when we say we KNOW what will happen. If you don't believe me, check the Bonn Bell thread, Gruden, or any of the threads from 4 years ago where posters argued over how many 1 classes Kiffin would pull in. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Actually, I think you'll find that the people who thought Dooley was going to succeed here and that Bray was going to be a superstar, etc. etc. are the people who actually don't look at records or history when evaluating anything and are probably the same people who keep coming up with new excuses for why Butch and company keep getting blown out, lost to Vandy, and will finish no better than any Dooley coached team, etc.

If you have evidence to support your claims, please link to the posts of the forumites who made these silly predictions back then and who are critiquing Jones now. Otherwise, I'll assume you're just lying, like most of the Excusavols these days.

I criticized the Dooley hire from the outset and I never went in for any silly thoughts that he was going to ever achieve anything here. I guess, by your logic, that gives me added validity when I say that Butch Jones has done a pretty mediocre job this season and hasn't given me any cause to suspect he will ever be much more than an average coach here.
 
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The people that thought we would ever be SECG bound with Dooley at the helm needed a swift reality check.
 
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oregonvol said:
Actually, I think you'll find that the people who thought Dooley was going to succeed here and that Bray was going to be a superstar, etc. etc. are the people who actually don't look at records or history when evaluating anything and are probably the same people who keep coming up with new excuses for why Butch and company keep getting blown out, lost to Vandy, and will finish no better than any Dooley coached team, etc.

If you have evidence to support your claims, please link to the posts of the forumites who made these silly predictions back then and who are critiquing Jones now. Otherwise, I'll assume you're just lying, like most of the Excusavols these days.

I criticized the Dooley hire from the outset and I never went in for any silly thoughts that he was going to ever achieve anything here. I guess, by your logic, that gives me added validity when I say that Butch Jones has done a pretty mediocre job this season and hasn't given me any cause to suspect he will ever be much more than an average coach here.
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How am I an " Excusavol"? I never said Butch WOULD get it done. I simply listed some other examples of foolish VN predictions to point out the absurdity of some of these peoples comments. I'm going to opine that you did a pretty mediocre job using your reading comprehension skills.
 
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duckman398686 said:
The people that thought we would ever be SECG bound with Dooley at the helm needed a swift reality check.
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True. But those people were out there and in more numbers than they would like to admit. And there was honestly a lot to like about the direction of the program at that moment. We couldn't have predicted what would happen the following season. Which is the general point of my OP.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
How am I an " Excusavol"? I never said Butch WOULD get it done. I simply listed some other examples of foolish VN predictions to point out the absurdity of some of these peoples comments. I'm going to opine that you did a pretty mediocre job using your reading comprehension skills.
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I'm still waiting for some evidence that the same people made the two separate predictions. Or is your point simply, "Well, once some posters made a bad prediction, ergo all predictions are necessarily wrong"?
 
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oregonvol said:
I'm still waiting for some evidence that the same people made the two separate predictions. Or is your point simply, "Well, once some posters made a bad prediction, ergo all predictions are necessarily wrong"?
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I said "Volnations record of posting". If you thought that I was implying I could match the posts with the posters from three years ago then I apologize for misleading you.
 
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Biopsyman said:
The worst projection was that Nick Reviez was a 1st rounder...
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My favorite was all the guys around draft time last year who said that Zach Rogers was the next Wes Welker, Danny Amendola, Eric Decker, Wayne Chrebet, insert name of any white receiver here, etc.
 
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oregonvol said:
Actually, I think you'll find that the people who thought Dooley was going to succeed here and that Bray was going to be a superstar, etc. etc. are the people who actually don't look at records or history when evaluating anything and are probably the same people who keep coming up with new excuses for why Butch and company keep getting blown out, lost to Vandy, and will finish no better than any Dooley coached team, etc.

If you have evidence to support your claims, please link to the posts of the forumites who made these silly predictions back then and who are critiquing Jones now. Otherwise, I'll assume you're just lying, like most of the Excusavols these days.

I criticized the Dooley hire from the outset and I never went in for any silly thoughts that he was going to ever achieve anything here. I guess, by your logic, that gives me added validity when I say that Butch Jones has done a pretty mediocre job this season and hasn't given me any cause to suspect he will ever be much more than an average coach here.
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I thought Dooley was gonna fail, but I also thought Bray would succeed greatly. Most pundits thought he'd be a first rounder by some point as well.
 
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oregonvol said:
Actually, I think you'll find that the people who thought Dooley was going to succeed here and that Bray was going to be a superstar, etc. etc. are the people who actually don't look at records or history when evaluating anything and are probably the same people who keep coming up with new excuses for why Butch and company keep getting blown out, lost to Vandy, and will finish no better than any Dooley coached team, etc.

If you have evidence to support your claims, please link to the posts of the forumites who made these silly predictions back then and who are critiquing Jones now. Otherwise, I'll assume you're just lying, like most of the Excusavols these days.

I criticized the Dooley hire from the outset and I never went in for any silly thoughts that he was going to ever achieve anything here. I guess, by your logic, that gives me added validity when I say that Butch Jones has done a pretty mediocre job this season and hasn't given me any cause to suspect he will ever be much more than an average coach here.
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Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

Got any good stock tips for us?
 
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I agree with OP and specifically remember everyone on here concerned Dooley would be gone to GA. I however, never bought into Dooley just as I'm not buying into Jones. This brick by brick nonsense is the same as year zero bs. You never hear the great (even good coaches) having sayings!
 
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No way people thought Dooley would get interest from other schools.. His hiring was a fluke like blunder of epic proportions by a person with zero comprehension of sports.

I remember when he was hired, just like Kiffin, wondering why the AD was bringing in guys with LOSING records..
 
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When I saw Bray's high school film I thought he was a gifted quarterback and potentially NFL caliber quarterback. However, what we or I didn't know or could predict is what he was like between the ears or his maturity level. Under Cutcliffe's tutelage he might have been a first rounder if Cutcliffe could have put up with him. Of course we probably would never have seen the antics if under Cutcliffe.
 
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duckman398686 said:
The people that thought we would ever be SECG bound with Dooley at the helm needed a swift reality check.
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2010 was actually a pretty good season for Dooley. The LSU debacle was inexcusable, but to rally the team and go 6-6 after a 2-6 start was a nice turnaround. Plus, the Kentucky team we beat that year was actually decent and their best in a long time.

I was very optimistic heading into 2011, even after the UNC loss. Seemed like Bray, Hunter, and Rogers were going to be unstoppable on offense.
 
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