Time to eat Crow

[dduncan4163]

I knew that Coach Cut would come in a change our offense and make it leaps and bounds better. I thought that this TN team could end up being special and so far they are proving me right, but I was very wrong about one thing. I thought that by the time the Florida game rolled around Jon Crompton would be under center. I really believed that Ainge was going to be a lost cause. I loved Ainge but I didnt think he could be fixed. I HAVE NEVER BEEN HAPPIER TO BE WRONG IN MY LIFE.

Ainge has proved me wrong. It is hard to believe that he has got this good this quick. The Georgia game convinced me that he is the Real Deal. People are actually saying his name in the same breathe with the Heisman.

I will set back and enjoy a big plate of Crow. Something tells me I'm not the only one lol.

Here's to Cut. None of this sucess would be possible without him.:good!:

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

you know, last year i was calling for CPF to send Ainge back to Oregon.:mf_surrender: man, am i ever glad that didnt happen i cant wait to see how he is the rest of this very special year.:worship:

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

Don't feel too bad folks. If UT had beat Vandy last year and picked up maybe one additional win (say 10-6 over Bama instead of 6-3 loss) and made the Weedeater or Music City with a 7-4 record I feel pretty confident in guessing that Randy Sanders would still be the OC on the hill and the Vols would probably be 3-3 right now.

What I mean by this is that the anger and doubt generated by 2005 was completely justified. Without it there would not have been significant changes and, therefore, no significant improvements.

 

[Lexvol]

Don't feel too bad folks. If UT had beat Vandy last year and picked up maybe one additional win (say 10-6 over Bama instead of 6-3 loss) and made the Weedeater or Music City with a 7-4 record I feel pretty confident in guessing that Randy Sanders would still be the OC on the hill and the Vols would probably be 3-3 right now.

What I mean by this is that the anger and doubt generated by 2005 was completely justified. Without it there would not have been significant changes and, therefore, no significant improvements.

100% correct. One could easily argue that last year's team was more talented, or as talented as this year's team.

 

[rexvol]

whatever it took to get Randy elsewhere, it was painful though and I wish Randy the best at KY

 

[OrangeSquare]

Randy steped down after the South Carolina game.

He wasn't returning to Tennessee to put his kids through any more abuse, regardless what happened over the last few games.

 

[patrick]

where are all the other Ainge haters?

their where a ton of you out there preseason!!!!!!! oh now you are on the Ainge band wagon...... and you prob talking about how he may be a heisman contender next year.

 

[OrangeSquare]

where are all the other Ainge haters?

their where a ton of you out there preseason!!!!!!! oh now you are on the Ainge band wagon...... and you prob talking about how he may be a heisman contender next year.

First of all, try actually making a point relevant to the thread when attacking someone.

Secondly, I have never been an "Ainge hater".

Coming into the season, I had concerns about the mental aspects of a kid that gave me and plenty others good reason to wonder how he was going to turn out. I disliked the way that he carried himself as a Tennessee athlete over the past two seasons, and how he represented the university. I supported, and still do, Jonathon Crompton, someone whom I know has good moral fiber and whom I hope we someday get to see starting at QB for Tennessee.

As for "being on the Ainge bandwagon", I am very pleased with the way that Ainge has turned himself around, both on and off the field. He has truly matured to the point that he doesn't think of himself as much, and to where he takes responsibility for his mistakes without projecting blame at teammates. That makes me happy both for him and the University.

So, in the future, and I know this is a stretch for you, attempt to have some idea what you are about to ramble on about before actually allowing your cheeto-stained fingers to do the talking.

It will make for a much more intelligent debate.

We now return you to your David Cutcliffe praise thread.

Way to go DC!

 

[vader]

where are all the other Ainge haters?

their where a ton of you out there preseason!!!!!!! oh now you are on the Ainge band wagon...... and you prob talking about how he may be a heisman contender next year.

I would never call myself an Ainge hater, but how could you NOT have doubts after that over the shoulder lob to a linebacker (lineman?) out of our endzone at LSU last year.

The crow I will eat is due to me crying for some fresh blood instead of hiring Cutcliffe last year. He has obviously made a huge difference in the play of Ainge and the offense.

 

[rexvol]

So, in the future, and I know this is a stretch for you, attempt to have some idea what you are about to ramble on about before actually allowing your cheeto-stained fingers to do the talking.

It will make for a much more intelligent debate.

We now return you to your David Cutcliffe praise thread.

Way to go DC! [/quote]


I love cheetos:dance2:

 

[patrick]

1st of all, I was speaking generally. Thousands of Vol fans wanted Ainge run out of town (not just "doubts about his abilities" and god forbid he wore earings). Many of these same fans gave Fulmer a pass "for one bad year"; why did these fans not give Ainge a pass "for one bad year"? He did have a very good TRUE freshman year.

Now many of these same fans who wanted Crompton to start the year are on the Ainge bandwagon. They are now talking about his draft stock and the heisman race!!!!!!!

Yes, Ainge had a bad year last year (as did Clausen and the rest of the Vols). Ainge received mediocre coaching at best. The staff under Fulmer's direction created a QB controversey, the receiver's dropped passes and ran bad routes, the line did not block well, the RB's were average except for Foster. There were many problems last year.

People just need to admit when they were wrong without giving all the qualifiers. How you would like it if someone told you they were wrong about you but in the same breath they said they had all these reasons which supported why they were right in the first place????? That is not admitting anything.

It was nice to see that lazy who started this thread had the guts to admit that he was wrong. There should be 100's and 1000's doing the same.

Secondly, what do you know about Ainge's "moral fiber"? What do you know about Crompton's "moral fiber"? Do you know them both personally? Do you know their families?

Finally, I do not even eat cheetos, you smuck.

 

[tclowers23]

Wow, patrick, you're a class act.

 

[patrick]

just responding to o s

 

[volwarren]

where are all the other Ainge haters?

their where a ton of you out there preseason!!!!!!! oh now you are on the Ainge band wagon...... and you prob talking about how he may be a heisman contender next year.

Ainge has been put on the Heisman watch this year and I think he could win it this year.

 

[BACKDOC]

I'm glad Sanders is gone.

 

[OWB]

Just for the record, I have always supported and defended Ainge..:thumbsup:

 

[OrangeSquare]

1st of all, I was speaking generally. Thousands of Vol fans wanted Ainge run out of town (not just "doubts about his abilities" and god forbid he wore earings). Many of these same fans gave Fulmer a pass "for one bad year"; why did these fans not give Ainge a pass "for one bad year"? He did have a very good TRUE freshman year.

Now many of these same fans who wanted Crompton to start the year are on the Ainge bandwagon. They are now talking about his draft stock and the heisman race!!!!!!!

Yes, Ainge had a bad year last year (as did Clausen and the rest of the Vols). Ainge received mediocre coaching at best. The staff under Fulmer's direction created a QB controversey, the receiver's dropped passes and ran bad routes, the line did not block well, the RB's were average except for Foster. There were many problems last year.

People just need to admit when they were wrong without giving all the qualifiers. How you would like it if someone told you they were wrong about you but in the same breath they said they had all these reasons which supported why they were right in the first place????? That is not admitting anything.

It was nice to see that lazy who started this thread had the guts to admit that he was wrong. There should be 100's and 1000's doing the same.

Secondly, what do you know about Ainge's "moral fiber"? What do you know about Crompton's "moral fiber"? Do you know them both personally? Do you know their families?

Finally, I do not even eat cheetos, you smuck.

Your first post didn't seem too general, it was singular and posted right after mine. I am on record as having said that I wanted to make sure we didn't play an inept Ainge longer than we should because of the capable backup we have and I have been saddled with the "Ainge hater" remark before, so it was pretty fair of me to assume that you were talking to me.

Simply because someone said coming into this season that Crompton should have a chance to start if Ainge couldn't perform well, doesn't make them an Ainge hater. If they are happy with Ainge's turnaround, it doesn't mean they are on any "bandwagon".

If you want me to say that I am surprised at Ainge's progression, then fine, because myself and yes, thousands others should be surprised. He has made as close to a 180 as anyone in College Football.

As for knowing both players and their families, yes actually, I do. I have met them both, I have met and had run-ins with both of their families and I know very well people that have connections to them both every day. So, I do think that I can say that I know Crompton has a good moral fiber, and that Ainge has matured tremendously over the past 12 months.

Oh, and I think "shmuck" was what you were looking for.

 

[kptvol]

I had a lot of doubts about Ainge coming into the 2005 season. His 2004 season was largely helped by the great play of our young WRs (who inexplicably underperformed in '05) and our awesome RB duo. Still, the QB tends to get the reward or the blame for a good offensive output. Thus, everyone was expecting a Manning-like sophomore campaign. I figured that was unrealistic, but I expected him to gradually improve over the course of the season into a quality QB. I don't think that happened. He made some terrible judgement calls that led a lot of people to believe he didn't have a high enough QB IQ, or whatever, to lead our offense. Even Jimmy Hyams said last year that Ainge doesn't have what it takes to be an SEC quarterback. The criticism on Ainge was made out of concern for a UT program that badly needed a good season. Last year, Ainge was terrible in scrimmages. This year, when he looked unimpressive, everyone feared Ainge's problems were still present. The bottom line is that Ainge played badly enough his sophomore season, that the criticism he's received was deserved. No one was calling for AJ Suggs, Joey Matthews, or CJ Leak after Clausen's sophomore year. He played well enough to win us some games that year. Ainge didn't do that in 2005. This year he is. Problem solved. No need to dwell on 2005 anymore than necessary.

 

[ledhed43]

I would never call myself an Ainge hater, but how could you NOT have doubts after that over the shoulder lob to a linebacker (lineman?) out of our endzone at LSU last year.

The crow I will eat is due to me crying for some fresh blood instead of hiring Cutcliffe last year. He has obviously made a huge difference in the play of Ainge and the offense.

same here, i wanted fresh blood too. next year that maybe what we get, cause cut will be called for a HC job somewhere. we should be careful what we wish for.