Tired of dragging your kids to school...

[salutethehill]

...and you don't want to take the time to home school them? I've got GREAT news for you...

The Unschooling Movement: School's Out ... Forever - ParentDish

 

[utvolpj]

But does visiting the Sphinx teach a person algebra?

Children can take care of that on their own, unschooling parent Christine Yablonski of Massachusetts tells ABC News.

that's great. I'm sure I would have picked up that Algebra book and understood it if I was just left alone. These people live on a commune?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

that's great. I'm sure I would have picked up that Algebra book and understood it if I was just left alone. These people live on a commune?

Ahh... what difference does it make? If they are unschooled, they probably have just as much useful knowledge in their heads as any other kid going to public school.

Nothing to see here... :zeitung_lesen:

 

[KingNick865]

I've heard about this.

This just seems like you're setting your kid up for a cold, hard awakening once they get to be an adult.

 

[droski]

worked for tebow. oh wait. he is a wackjob.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Ahh... what difference does it make? If they are unschooled, they probably have just as much useful knowledge in their heads as any other kid going to public school.

Nothing to see here... :zeitung_lesen:

Are you beating down public schools?

 

[DC Vol]

Are you beating down public schools?

Especially public universities.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Are you beating down public schools?

I'm painting with a broad brush, but in general, I am bashing them. I went to a public high school and two public universities for undergrad/graduate. So it's not about me being elitist or anything. But I've seen the kind of nonsense that is being taught and advanced in our public schools.

 

[droski]

we have the greatest public university system in the world. the high and grammar schools are a major problem.

 

[superdave1984]

I'm painting with a broad brush, but in general, I am bashing them. I went to a public high school and two public universities for undergrad/graduate. So it's not about me being elitist or anything. But I've seen the kind of nonsense that is being taught and advanced in our public schools.

Kids are taught how to do well on standardized tests. Nothing more. It's not about educating the kids, it's about getting government money.

 

[BigPapaVol]

I'm painting with a broad brush, but in general, I am bashing them. I went to a public high school and two public universities for undergrad/graduate. So it's not about me being elitist or anything. But I've seen the kind of nonsense that is being taught and advanced in our public schools.

I just believe that education is more a function of parental involvement through secondary level and that our higher education system is tops in the world, public or private.

I was public high school educated, then quasi public / private undergrad with private grad school. I was only behind my peers on one front from having been in the public school system, but was generally ahead in the rest.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

we have the greatest public university system in the world. the high and grammar schools are a major problem.

Some of the liberal arts classes offered are pure garbage. I suppose that is where my disdain is more focused at concerning our universities.

 

[droski]

I just believe that education is more a function of parental involvement through secondary level and that our higher education system is tops in the world, public or private.

I was public high school educated, then quasi public / private undergrad with private grad school. I was only behind my peers on one front from having been in the public school system, but was generally ahead in the rest.

my fiance is a school teacher. when she has parent teacher conference day the parents of the struggling kids rarely show up, it's usually the parents of the A students.

 

[droski]

Some of the liberal arts classes offered are pure garbage. I suppose that is where my disdain is more focused at concerning our universities.

i've used my ability to write well (which certainly was helped by english clases) in every job i've ever had.

 

[BigPapaVol]

my fiance is a school teacher. when she has parent teacher conference day the parents of the struggling kids rarely show up, it's usually the parents of the A students.

My wife was a teacher, too, and her experience solidified what I believe. Involved parents get the most out of kids.

 

[BigPapaVol]

Some of the liberal arts classes offered are pure garbage. I suppose that is where my disdain is more focused at concerning our universities.

some of the liberal arts is pure garbage, but people are paying for it and as long as they're learning to think for themselves and think critically, who cares where they're expending their energy?

In my mind, we fail students when we let memorization serve as education or when we let regurgitating some professor or author's crap serve as learning.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

i've used my ability to write well (which certainly was helped by english clases) in every job i've ever had.

Maybe so, not really relevent. I'm not denying that there are times when the universities do actually do their jobs. the point I making is that far too often nowadays (as well as back when I was in undergrad), we were offered classes that have little value. They may not be the majority of the courses, but there are far too many of them.

 

[droski]

Maybe so, not really relevent. I'm not denying that there are times when the universities do actually do their jobs. the point I making is that far too often nowadays (as well as back when I was in undergrad), we were offered classes that have little value. They may not be the majority of the courses, but there are far too many of them.

agreed. i learned nothing in my required ethnic studies classes other than white people are the devil, but i dont' think forcing me to take these classes killed me. one more accounting class wouldnt' have made much a difference.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

some of the liberal arts is pure garbage, but people are paying for it and as long as they're learning to think for themselves and think critically, who cares where they're expending their energy?

The problem comes later on after graduating and they have that degree in their hand. then they begin to realize that most of those courses in Peruvian History or the roles of women in black cinema probably make for great conversations at the coffee house, but doesn't really make you that much more marketable when you are looking for a job.

Our attitudes about what a college degree is and what it is supposed to do for you differs from most people, I suppose. But that is a whole new debate that I've had before and really don't feel like getting into right now.

 

[BigPapaVol]

agreed. i learned nothing in my required ethnic studies classes other than white people are the devil, but i dont' think forcing me to take these classes killed me. one more accounting class wouldnt' have made much a difference.

we can gripe until the cows come home, but nothing is changing that we are all going to be subjected to the lefty cause of the day in school. The number of those courses that are now core is amazing, but isn't changing in academia.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

agreed. i learned nothing in my required ethnic studies classes other than white people are the devil, but i dont' think forcing me to take these classes killed me. one more accounting class wouldnt' have made much a difference.

I guess my perspective is as an engineering student. The time I wasted studying linguistics, philosophy and fine art could have been used more constructively. I could have focused more attention on courses required for my vocation. I guess my feeling is that if I want to learn about Peruvian art or classical music, there is nothing stopping me from doing it on my own time... and I could do it for far less money than what universities charge per credit hour. And honestly, the "more well rounded person' argument just doesn't sit well with me. I honestly think that my quality of life right now would not have been any worse if did not have those classes.

 

[droski]

but you probably wont bother to learn about these things. even my ethnic studies classes are helpful because i can use their bs arguments against hte liberals i know,

 

[rjd970]

I just believe that education is more a function of parental involvement through secondary level and that our higher education system is tops in the world, public or private.

I was public high school educated, then quasi public / private undergrad with private grad school. I was only behind my peers on one front from having been in the public school system, but was generally ahead in the rest.

I have a public high school, public undergraduate degree and a private graduate degree. I found that I was generally ahead of my peers in grad school.

 

[Cartervol]

Sounds like some future Obama voters. He's probably funding the movement, they call it the sheep movement, lol.

 

[salutethehill]

My wife was a teacher, too, and her experience solidified what I believe. Involved parents get the most out of kids.

Good post. I've known brilliant home-schooled kids and not-so-brilliant home-schooled kids. I've known brilliant public school kids and not-so-brilliant public school kids. The difference was their parents.

I don't know any unschooled kids, though I believe a few may post on here.