'22 TN DT Walter Nolen (Ole Miss)

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I feel like he’s lazy and entitled. But I think those will get hammered out in college. When you’re so much bigger and stronger and everyone is telling you how amazing you are, it causes a big head.

He’s not been as dominant as he could be, part of that is conditioning, part of it could be newness to the team, part of it is opposing team scheme.

Regardless, I’d rather have him than not have him. But there are some worrying signs from him.
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
I feel like he’s lazy and entitled. But I think those will get hammered out in college. When you’re so much bigger and stronger and everyone is telling you how amazing you are, it causes a big head.

He’s not been as dominant as he could be, part of that is conditioning, part of it could be newness to the team, part of it is opposing team scheme.

Regardless, I’d rather have him than not have him. But there are some worrying signs from him.
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I haven't seen any signs of laziness or entitlement. I have seen a kid that isn't in good enough shape to go full speed every snap because he's winded. The plays that he's been able to go full bore, he's been completely unblockable. He is definitely the type of kid that Garner has turned into 1st round draft picks. It's easy for people to argue how his summer should/could have been spent in regards to conditioning, but the raw talent is undeniable. I don't know what his situation or his family's situation was the past 3-4 months, and won't begin to judge.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which I enter the season out of shape if I'm the #1 DT recruit in the country. If I want to be a first rounder, I need to eat, sleep, and breath football and treat it like a job. It is just very odd to me that we're not allowed to call that a red flag.
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It is one thing to comment on what you saw. But the back handed comments like "wouldn't start at Maryville" comparing him to the other 5 stars etc. Btw The team you played with Riggs was gutted. All they had was Riggs and he didn't have much help. The 2001 team would have boat raced you all. Was probably the best team Red Bank has ever had or will for a long time. That's another arguement. Maybe it is just that Maryville Ass Hat syndrome that gets you in trouble. Just an observation
 
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SamRebel35 said:
I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which I enter the season out of shape if I'm the #1 DT recruit in the country. If I want to be a first rounder, I need to eat, sleep, and breath football and treat it like a job. It is just very odd to me that we're not allowed to call that a red flag.
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We are talking about a 17 year old kid. Honestly, at 17 a kid has no idea what it takes to be a 1st round draft pick. Especially if he is training on his own. From what I could tell, his family spent a lot of time this summer on various college campuses. I've seen a lot of highly rated college prospects over the past 25 years. A lineman not being in peak physical condition at the beginning of the season is not the major red flag that you think. Many high school athletes don't have a strict regiment in regards to sleep, diet, school work, etc.... This is why college is such a big adjustment for many extremely talented kids. But, they get all of this once they report. Being a college football player is a 12+hr a day job during the season once classes start. There is a level of personal responsibly there, but you have an itinerary handed to you the day you step foot on campus, and you are expected to follow it to the letter. He will likely be just fine wherever he ends up.
 
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We are talking about a 17 year old kid. Honestly, at 17 a kid has no idea what it takes to be a 1st round draft pick. Especially if he is training on his own. From what I could tell, his family spent a lot of time this summer on various college campuses. I've seen a lot of highly rated college prospects over the past 25 years. A lineman not being in peak physical condition at the beginning of the season is not the major red flag that you think. Many high school athletes don't have a strict regiment in regards to sleep, diet, school work, etc.... This is why college is such a big adjustment for many extremely talented kids. But, they get all of this once they report. Being a college football player is a 12+hr a day job during the season once classes start. There is a level of personal responsibly there, but you have an itinerary handed to you the day you step foot on campus, and you are expected to follow it to the letter. He will likely be just fine wherever he ends up.
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I hear you. But when we're talking about such slim chances to get drafted (even for 5* recruits it is only about 50% they get drafted and only about 17% that they go first round) I don't think showing up out of shape is a signal that you're taking the process seriously. Maybe it isn't a red flag sometimes but it can't help your relatively slim odds of being a first rounder in any case.
 
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bigl3327 said:
We are talking about a 17 year old kid. Honestly, at 17 a kid has no idea what it takes to be a 1st round draft pick. Especially if he is training on his own. From what I could tell, his family spent a lot of time this summer on various college campuses. I've seen a lot of highly rated college prospects over the past 25 years. A lineman not being in peak physical condition at the beginning of the season is not the major red flag that you think. Many high school athletes don't have a strict regiment in regards to sleep, diet, school work, etc.... This is why college is such a big adjustment for many extremely talented kids. But, they get all of this once they report. Being a college football player is a 12+hr a day job during the season once classes start. There is a level of personal responsibly there, but you have an itinerary handed to you the day you step foot on campus, and you are expected to follow it to the letter. He will likely be just fine wherever he ends up.
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I think everyone agrees that he’s very talented and still worth being highly recruited.

The only issue is he definitely doesn’t look like the #1 player in the country. I just listened to the EA show from yesterday and they said the same. Agreed he will be fine but when you’re a consensus 5 star they expect you to dominate the game. And he didn’t come close to that.

As a matter of fact they said the 2023 center for Maryville is going to end up picking up more attention and offers. I guess he has 1 big offer right now and that’s Ole Miss.
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
I think everyone agrees that he’s very talented and still worth being highly recruited.

The only issue is he definitely doesn’t look like the #1 player in the country. I just listened to the EA show from yesterday and they said the same. Agreed he will be fine but when you’re a consensus 5 star they expect you to dominate the game. And he didn’t come close to that.

As a matter of fact they said the 2023 center for Maryville is going to end up picking up more attention and offers. I guess he has 1 big offer right now and that’s Ole Miss.
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So a center with D1 offers did a pretty good job against a D1 DT? Lol just makes the criticisms all the more ridiculous honestly
 
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BigALWiLson said:
I don't have a clue either way. I sure do hope he is a Vol. Just the BVS I am experiencing. Seems more contagious than Covid
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He wouldn’t have went through all that trouble transferring to Powell if he’s going elsewhere.

NTI deals and Rodney Garner helped us win this battle.
 
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