fans are driver loyal no doubt about it. A driver can make a move and O My God! Did you see what that low rent, punk azz, no class havin bum did?...yet the next race their driver can do a sililar move and hey its just racing quit your whinin! its what makes racing so great is seeing fans debate justification. Dale Earnhardt said it best, in reply to an accusation that he drove reckless, selfish, and dangerous. 'My sponsors expect me to win races and not just show up...so if I gotta put you in the wall to win thats just what Ill do''. Well that what all drivers do, at least those with any ambition...its the fans that are in different camps. :twocents: