Toyota caught cheating/NASCAR Uncovers Cheating by Joe Gibbs Racing

#2
#2
I don't blame JGR. I hate Toyota, but Nascar penalized Toyota for hard work to begin with. It just wasn't fair to make them adjust their tapered spacer to begin with.
 
#6
#6
I don't blame JGR. I hate Toyota, but Nascar penalized Toyota for hard work to begin with. It just wasn't fair to make them adjust their tapered spacer to begin with.

You don't blame them for intentionally cheating? Then who do you blame? Somebody knew exactly what they were doing and deserved to be punished severely for it and I hope they drop the hammer on JGR. For a guy who always goes around preaching about living the "right way" and following God and the principles in the Bible, Joe Gibbs organization certainly doesn't reflect that.
 
#7
#7
Nascar screwed Toyota because of effort a while back. JGR was probably trying to prevent it from happening again. It's not Toyota's fault that they've been the most dominant team this season in both series.
 
#8
#8
Serves them right! I'm surprised it didn't happen to Hendrick Motorsports last year with all the wins they had. What's happened to HMS this year after running the field ragged last year? 18 wins out of 36 races. Jimmie and Jeff had 16 total. Can Kyle win 10 this year in the Sprint Cup?

I think if he wins at least 3 of the Chase races he'll be the Cup Champ! I think the only two drivers that have a shot or Carl or Jimmie.
 
#9
#9
You don't blame them for intentionally cheating? Then who do you blame? Somebody knew exactly what they were doing and deserved to be punished severely for it and I hope they drop the hammer on JGR. For a guy who always goes around preaching about living the "right way" and following God and the principles in the Bible, Joe Gibbs organization certainly doesn't reflect that.

This incident occured without the knowledge of Joe or his son. I think we can leave the religious attacks out of this.
 
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#10
#10
You don't blame them for intentionally cheating? Then who do you blame? Somebody knew exactly what they were doing and deserved to be punished severely for it and I hope they drop the hammer on JGR. For a guy who always goes around preaching about living the "right way" and following God and the principles in the Bible, Joe Gibbs organization certainly doesn't reflect that.

you're kidding right?

edit: damn, McLovin beat me to it. next time i'll read all the way thru.
 
#12
#12
I am certainly not a Toyota fan. However, I do have a problem with NASCAR "dialing" back their horsepower. NASCAR has a set of parameters for the manufacturers to follow when developing and building their engines, manifolds, etc. If Toyota has kept their engine within those parameters then it is ridiculous to me to slow them down. I mean is this racing or what? What's next tying a ton of lead to each Toyota just to make the others more competitive? If anything this should be motivation to the Detroit three to get off of their a$$ and develop something more competitive. NASCAR is fast losing me along with loads of other people I know as fans.
 
#13
#13
You don't blame them for intentionally cheating? Then who do you blame? Somebody knew exactly what they were doing and deserved to be punished severely for it and I hope they drop the hammer on JGR. For a guy who always goes around preaching about living the "right way" and following God and the principles in the Bible, Joe Gibbs organization certainly doesn't reflect that.


Do you really call it cheating? Toyota put in the R&D to develop a dominate engine program. Now that they have accomplished it NASCAR is wanting to slow them down. How the hell do you call it racing then slow someone down? Should the NCAA force Florida to play Tennessee this year without Teabag because they throttled us last year? I mean wouldn't that make it more even?
 

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