Transgender Birth Certificates

[Sea Ray]

A federal court just gave transgendered people the right to change the sex listed on their birth certificate. What the hell? I agree with Ohio who claimed:

According to court documents, Ohio officials said the policy was re-examined and the decision was made to prevent fraud and to maintain accurate historical records.

It is a record of your sex at birth. It is a historical record. If you change your sex later in life (and I won't even go into whether this is even possible) that does not change your sex at birth. This judge felt that it was discriminatory to trans people if their birth sex was listed correctly on a document called a birth certificate.

Incidentally Tennessee is the last remaining state that doesn't allow folks to change their sex on a birth certificate:

Lambda Legal, a legal defense group for LGBT rights, said in a press release Wednesday that Ohio was one of only two states in the country still denying transgender people the ability to change the sex on their birth certificates.

Tennessee is now the only remaining state with such a policy, the group said.

This is crap and I hope they appeal this to the Supreme Court. This is why the appointment of solid judges cannot be overstated


Judge slams Ohio's policy against transgender birth certificate changes

 

[615vols]

More fantasy land bulls*** from “the party of science”

 

[Wafflestomper]

Sorry, why do you care?

 

[Roustabout]

A federal court just gave transgendered people the right to change the sex listed on their birth certificate. What the hell? I agree with Ohio who claimed:



It is a record of your sex at birth. It is a historical record. If you change your sex later in life (and I won't even go into whether this is even possible) that does not change your sex at birth. This judge felt that it was discriminatory to trans people if their birth sex was listed correctly on a document called a birth certificate.

Incidentally Tennessee is the last remaining state that doesn't allow folks to change their sex on a birth certificate:




This is crap and I hope they appeal this to the Supreme Court. This is why the appointment of solid judges cannot be overstated


Judge slams Ohio's policy against transgender birth certificate changes

Wait, I did though sex and gender were two different things??

 

[1972 Grad]

Sorry, why do you care?

I don't pretend to speak for him, but probably because it's dumb. A birth certificate describes what the person was when they were born.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Wait, I did though sex and gender were two different things??

 

[Roustabout]

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I say we just push the absurdity. Let’s start a movement for racial fluidity.

 

[Wafflestomper]

I don't pretend to speak for him, but probably because it's dumb. A birth certificate describes what the person was when they were born.

I don't pretend to speak for trans folks, however it seems to me that there is an advantage in having your birth certificate match your gender identity for pragmatic reasons, i.e., to avoid discrimination.

 

[hog88]

I don't pretend to speak for trans folks, however it seems to me that there is an advantage in having your birth certificate match your gender identity for pragmatic reasons, i.e., to avoid discrimination.

If you boy parts you should have a birth certificate that matches that. It doesn’t matter what you dress up as, you’re still a boy. If a person goes through the operation to change sexes then fine, change the BC.

 

[Wafflestomper]

If you boy parts you should have a birth certificate that matches that. It doesn’t matter what you dress up as, you’re still a boy. If a person goes through the operation to change sexes then fine, change the BC.

Okay, why? What interest does the government have in ensuring that your dick's not still there when you apply to change your BC?

 

[Orangeburst]

Just another lie to themselves. It is a relection of one's gender at birth. Hvaing a sex change after the fact does not change the fact

 

[C-south]

I don't pretend to speak for trans folks, however it seems to me that there is an advantage in having your birth certificate match your gender identity for pragmatic reasons, i.e., to avoid discrimination.

So when someone laughs at a dude dressed as a chic all they do is pull out their birth certificate?

 

[1972 Grad]

I don't pretend to speak for trans folks, however it seems to me that there is an advantage in having your birth certificate match your gender identity for pragmatic reasons, i.e., to avoid discrimination.

I don't really care, or have a horse in the race, but it seems that a birth certificate should be a record of what came out of the womb on the date of birth......................not something that occurred years after the fact.

 

[Wafflestomper]

So when someone laughs at a dude dressed as a chic all they do is pull out their birth certificate?

You're confusing discrimination with being a dick. They aren't mutually exclusive but they aren't the same thing either.

 

[Wireless1]

So where does 23 and me come into play?
My wife was born in Illinois, she doesn’t identify with that sorry excuse of a state and considers Tennessee home, think she can get a Tennessee birth certificate?
And while we’re at it, I want to transition to become a millennial, can we change my birth year?

 

[Sea Ray]

Wait, I did though sex and gender were two different things??

Here's an example of a birth certificate:

Example Birth Certificate

It states one's sex, not gender. One's sex does not change and even if it did, this certificate records one's sex at the time of birth

 

[Sea Ray]

I don't pretend to speak for trans folks, however it seems to me that there is an advantage in having your birth certificate match your gender identity for pragmatic reasons, i.e., to avoid discrimination.

That's irrelevant. You don't get to change your paperwork to say something false just because it may help you later.

 

[Sea Ray]

If you boy parts you should have a birth certificate that matches that. It doesn’t matter what you dress up as, you’re still a boy. If a person goes through the operation to change sexes then fine, change the BC.

I disagree with that. Generate a new one if you must but if you were born a boy in 1990 and you have an operation in 2010, it doesn't mean you can change the 1990 paperwork to state female

 

[C-south]

You're confusing discrimination with being a dick. They aren't mutually exclusive but they aren't the same thing either.

How do you discriminate against people with mental illness?

 

[Roustabout]

Here's an example of a birth certificate:

Example Birth Certificate

It states one's sex, not gender. One's sex does not change and even if it did, this certificate records one's sex at the time of birth

What is your point here?
If you actually research the etymology of this word, it was synonymous with the term "sex." It referred to the anatomical category of male and female. The current usage of the word is the result of liberal academia since 2010.

 

[Sea Ray]

What is your point here?
If you actually research the etymology of this word, it was synonymous with the term "sex." It referred to the anatomical category of male and female. The current usage of the word is the result of liberal academia since 2010.

No, you're wrong. The words sex and gender are NOT synonymous. The media has made them synonymous but that's just another problem with the MSM:

First though, it is necessary to point out that the terms sex and gender are not synonyms. Sex refers to the biological differences between males and females. Gender refers to the continuum of complex psychosocial self-perceptions, attitudes, and expectations people have about members of both sexes. Even the terms male and female, man and woman are not interchangeable. What it means to be male or female originates from physical characteristics derived from sex chromosomes and genes that lead to certain gonads, internal and external genitalia, and physiological hormones.

Sex, Gender, and Why the Differences Matter.

 

[Orangeburst]

I don't really care, or have a horse in the race, but it seems that a birth certificate should be a record of what came out of the womb on the date of birth......................not something that occurred years after the fact.

Obama and Mike changed their BC's

 

[Volgolfer1618]

A federal court just gave transgendered people the right to change the sex listed on their birth certificate. What the hell? I agree with Ohio who claimed:



It is a record of your sex at birth. It is a historical record. If you change your sex later in life (and I won't even go into whether this is even possible) that does not change your sex at birth. This judge felt that it was discriminatory to trans people if their birth sex was listed correctly on a document called a birth certificate.

Incidentally Tennessee is the last remaining state that doesn't allow folks to change their sex on a birth certificate:




This is crap and I hope they appeal this to the Supreme Court. This is why the appointment of solid judges cannot be overstated


Judge slams Ohio's policy against transgender birth certificate changes

We continue to reach new levels of insanity. This mental illness is being praised and promoted. Just insane.

 

[Volgolfer1618]

More fantasy land bulls*** from “the party of science”

Yeah, when science and politics get in bed together, science gets kicked out. It's a shame

 

[Sea Ray]

The trans folks have done more than change our records of birth. They've also changed our grammar. We and they are now OK to use in the singular according to Websters:

But recently, “they” has been getting a new level of mainstream recognition. In September, Merriam-Webster added the singular pronoun “they,” used to refer to “a single person whose gender identity is nonbinary,” or to a person whose gender is unknown or is intentionally not revealed. And earlier this month, the publication went a step further and chose the pronoun as its Word of the Year. Meanwhile, this October, the American Psychological Association (APA) endorsed the use of the singular “they” in scholarly writing.

The past, present, and future of the singular "they"