Trust your eyes not stars!!

#2
#2
It sounds to me like those guys just weren't coached up. I'm not a huge "stars" guy, but were ALL the services wrong that many times? If they didn't work hard to recruit maybe they didn't work hard enough to coach up the talent they had.
 
#4
#4
Orgeron has said he loves finding the "diamonds in the rough." Look at the teams he has put together over the years, I trust him over anyone.
 
#5
#5
matts42012volfan said:
Orgeron has said he loves finding the "diamonds in the rough." Look at the teams he has put together over the years, I trust him over anyone.
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Yeah he has a nose for talent like a bloodhound tracking something....He'll bring it home one way or another.
 
#6
#6
O's personality demands a cetain type of player. Certain types of high school kids don't fit that, and some of those may be the so called 5 star, can't miss players. That said, he has proven he can take the 3 stars, and if THEY want to, can be 5's before they leave. Add Monte to the mix and the % goes up even more.

Stars don't mean as much in this situation.
 
#7
#7
It's amazing to me that anyone in the coaching profession payed attention to the recruiting rankings to the point that they had to consciously move away from it. They have to be complete and utter imbeciles. Following the recruiting rankings for any amount of time leads anyone with any amount of intelligence to realize that they are complete crap and not based on anything that would be helpful to a college recruiting effort.
 
#8
#8
TylernLuke said:
It sounds to me like those guys just weren't coached up. I'm not a huge "stars" guy, but were ALL the services wrong that many times? If they didn't work hard to recruit maybe they didn't work hard enough to coach up the talent they had.
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Got al posiitons I can show you:

Rank POS First Name Last Name Stars What Happened?
1 PS-QB Ben Olsen 5 Redshirted. Went on Mission. Signed with UCLA
2 PS-QB Trent Edwards 5 Drafted 3rd round 2007 draft
3 PS-QB Justin Zwick 4 Completed Eligibility
4 PS-QB Anthony Martinez 4 Gave up Football
5 PS-QB Matt Gutierrez 4 Transfer Idaho St
6 PS-QB Drew Stanton 4 Drafted 2nd Round 2007 draft
7 PS-QB Marc Guillon 4 Transfer Alabama; Gave up Football
8 PS-QB Drew Olson 4 Completed Eligibility
9 PS-QB Brandon Cox 4 Did not enroll 1st Yr. Completed Eligibility
10 PS-QB Joe Teres'ski 4 Completed Eligibility
11 PS-QB Matt Moore 4 Transfer Oregon St
12 PS-QB Brandon Kirsch 4 Completed Eligibility
13 PS-QB Wyatt Sexton 4 Medical-Gave up Football
14 PS-QB Noah Allen 4 Transfer Sam Houston St
15 PS-QB Justin Tyler 3 Gave up Football
16 PS-QB Will Proctor 3 Completed Eligibility
17 PS-QB Christian Olson 3 Transfer Virginia
18 PS-QB Billy Don Malone 3 Transfer Abilene Christian
19 PS-QB Rhett Lashlee 3 Gave up Football
20 PS-QB Patrick Dosh 3 Transfer East Carolina
21 PS-QB John Stocco 3 Completed Eligibility
22 PS-QB Zac Taylor 3 Gave up Football
23 PS-QB Marshall Tharpe 3 Gave up Football
24 PS-QB Graeme McFarland 3 Completed Eligibility
25 PS-QB Karim El Nokali 3 Gave up Football
26 PS-QB Chris Crumpton 3 Gave up Football
27 PS-QB Ethan Flatt 3 Gave up Football
28 PS-QB Wesley Hill 3 Gave up Football
29 PS-QB Jamie Beeghley 3 Gave up Football
30 PS-QB James Pinkney 3 Completed Eligibility
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Rank POS First Name Last Name Stars What Happened?
1 DT-QB Vincent Young 5 Drafted 1st round 2007 draft
2 DT-QB Marcus Vick 5 Dismissed from Team
3 DT-QB James Banks 5 Dismissed form Team
4 DT-QB Gavin Dickey 4 Gave up Football
5 DT-QB Lester Ricard Jr 4 Transferred to Tulane
6 DT-QB Isaish Stanback 4 Drafted 4th round 2007 draft
7 DT-QB Anthony Johnson 4 Gave up Football
8 DT-QB Tyler Palko 4 Completed Eligibility
9 DT-QB Curt Dukes 4 Transfer Duke
10 DT-QB Sam Williams 4 Gave up Football
11 DT-QB Aryhel Freeman 4 Dismissed from Team
12 DT-QB Troy Smith 4 Drafted 5th round 2007 draft
13 DT-QB Cedric Washington 4 Completed Eligibility
14 DT-QB Austin Flynn 4 Completed Eligibility
15 DT-QB Bo Flowers 4 Pro Baseball
16 DT-QB Ryan O'Hara 3 Gave up Football
17 DT-QB Perry Patterson 3 Completed Eligibility
18 DT-QB Joel Stathan 3 Gave up Football
19 DT-QB Carl Bonnell 3 Completed Eligibility
20 DT-QB Kellen Bradley 3 Gave up Football
21 DT-QB James Cox 3 Completed Eligibility
22 DT-QB Nick Reid 3 Completed Eligibility
23 DT-QB Allen Webb 3 Transfer Texas College
24 DT-QB Joseph Ferguson 3 Gave up Football
25 DT-QB Tim Brasic 3 Completed Eligibility
26 DT-QB Maurice Avery 3 Completed Eligibility
27 DT-QB Brandon Avalos 3 Transfer to Shelton St
28 DT-QB Chris Pazan 3 Completed Eligibility
29 DT-QB Josh Hibbets 3 Gave up Football
30 DT-QB Dominique Richmond 3 Prison-Never made it
31 DT-QB Jason Manson 3 Completed Eligibility
32 DT-QB Josh Harris 3 Completed Eligibility
33 DT-QB David Overstreet 3 Completed Eligibility
34 DT-QB Junior Alexis 3 Never played
35 DT-QB Aries Nelson 3 Transfer to Mississippi Valley St
 
#11
#11
Sabanocchio said:
It's amazing to me that anyone in the coaching profession payed attention to the recruiting rankings to the point that they had to consciously move away from it. They have to be complete and utter imbeciles. Following the recruiting rankings for any amount of time leads anyone with any amount of intelligence to realize that they are complete crap and not based on anything that would be helpful to a college recruiting effort.
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Recruiting sites serve a purpose. Even Coach O looks at recruiting sites and admits he uses them to get info.

Obviously, coaches shouldn't base their talent evaluation solely on Rivals or Scout's opinion but they are great tools for staying up to date on recruits.

There are hundreds of prospects to keep track of and coaches spend a lot of time on the road recruiting. Having a database of all the recruits that provides updates about their comments, performance in games, injuries or preference in schools is very convenient.
 
#12
#12
I am sure these sites have there use to coaches. But I don't think you should ever offer a player just off of a ranking on a recruiting service. I think what this staff believes in is film. Heck, they carry around video cameras and record there own. I also think they or Coach O likes game film not highlight tapes from reading his book. All of this takes alot of time and organization. He is the best in the buisness at finding good players. Look at USC hell look at what he done at Mississippi. Now think of what he can do here. I think in a couple of years we will have the players to compete with anybody.
 
#13
#13
gainesvol82 said:
Recruiting sites serve a purpose. Even Coach O looks at recruiting sites and admits he uses them to get info.

Obviously, coaches shouldn't base their talent evaluation solely on Rivals or Scout's opinion but they are great tools for staying up to date on recruits.

There are hundreds of prospects to keep track of and coaches spend a lot of time on the road recruiting. Having a database of all the recruits that provides updates about their comments, performance in games, injuries or preference in schools is very convenient.
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Wow. You really think I didn't already know that? When you spend so much time following recruiting sites that your team suffers because of it, then you are an idiot. Having to give a quote like this is embarrassing:

"That's accurate," UM recruiting coordinator Clint Hurtt said. "We spent way too much time recruiting off [Internet] lists and finding these top guys instead of truly evaluating.
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