Twitter saying Kiffin to Arkansas?

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LouderVol said:
Bama hasnt cheated bad enough for the NCAA to punish FAU yet.
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Actually I take that back. Those years he was at USC to now have not produced one inkling of issues with the NCAA. To say he’s for sure gonna have their attention on day 1 is dumb and uneducated.
 
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Joey Freshwater is gonna be plowin' through the sows in Fayetville in no time!
 
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Kiffin is reportedly on campus @ ole miss this morning.
 
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zjcvols said:
If Arkansas can’t get Kiffin, get Bill Clark.

Also how is this possible

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Its simple. He isn't a splash hire that the likes of Arkansas or Mizzou absolutely need. You're not going to say "money is no issue" in the case of Arkansas and then settle on Bill Clark.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Its simple. He isn't a splash hire that the likes of Arkansas or Mizzou absolutely need. You're not going to say "money is no issue" in the case of Arkansas and then settle on Bill Clark.
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I would not classify Bill Clark as settling. There’s an argument he’s a top 15 coach in the country
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Its simple. He isn't a splash hire that the likes of Arkansas or Mizzou absolutely need. You're not going to say "money is no issue" in the case of Arkansas and then settle on Bill Clark.
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I agree, but whoever they do "settle on" will be a worse coach than Bill Clark.
 
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zjcvols said:
I would not classify Bill Clark as settling. There’s an argument he’s a top 15 coach in the country
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Would you pay Bill Clark 4-5 million a year to jump from UAB to SEC? If you're answer is no, you're settling. Could it pan out long term? Sure. But you aren't going to say "Money is no issue" and then settle on Bill Clark.
 
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zjcvols said:
I would not classify Bill Clark as settling. There’s an argument he’s a top 15 coach in the country
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What Bill Clark has done at UAB is nothing short of remarkable! Programs who really need a complete renovation should be kicking down his door
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
What Bill Clark has done at UAB is nothing short of remarkable! Programs who really need a complete renovation should be kicking down his door
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Would he be on the top of your list at a program that has said money won't be an issue in the coaching search? You ain't giving Bill Clark 4-5 million
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Would he be on the top of your list at a program that has said money won't be an issue in the coaching search? You ain't giving Bill Clark 4-5 million
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Arkansas isn’t getting anyone worth a damn at $4M-$5M anyways. They actually tried that with Beilema and got them nowhere. They need to focus less on name and get a good coach.
 
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zjcvols said:
If Arkansas can’t get Kiffin, get Bill Clark.

Also how is this possible

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Because AD's are fans too and they get carried away by perception as opposed to results just like Mike Hamilton. Lane Kiffin's head coaching record speaks for itself, very average to slightly above average at USC and UT; good at FAU, but here is the difference, Bill Clark actually completely rebuilt the UAB program from nothing to a winner. Many other coaches have won at lower levels like Kiffin and not performed well at much more difficult conferences that were much bigger names than Lane Kiffin (Tom Herman, Willie Taggert, Scott Frost, and Chad Morris most recently). Lane Kiffin should primarily be judged as a coach by his efforts at USC, UT, and Alabama. He had a combined record of 35-21 at USC and UT as a head coach with only one season of 10 or more wins. The other four seasons he had a combined record of 25-19 which is very average. His offenses at Alabama weren't statistically any better than the previous OC's or the OC's that followed him. Alabama's statistically worse offense over the last 10 years or so occurred under him in 2015 and the statistically best offense occurred after him in 2018. There is no doubt Lane Kiffin is a good offensive play caller. Is he elite? Probably not, but if all things are being equal between him and other coaches, he brings a lot of unnecessary baggage. He has never been at a program as an OC or head coach for more than three full seasons.
 
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zjcvols said:
Arkansas isn’t getting anyone worth a damn at $4M-$5M anyways. They actually tried that with Beilema and got them nowhere. They need to focus less on name and get a good coach.
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Arkansas has said this hire will not be hindered by ability to spend money aka they are willing to shell out money if the name warrants it. Bill Clark doesn't warrant that much money hence Arkansas would be settling with someone like Bill Clark.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Would he be on the top of your list at a program that has said money won't be an issue in the coaching search? You ain't giving Bill Clark 4-5 million
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If I'm Arkansas he's my number 1 priority because he's the biggest name you'll get
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Arkansas has said this hire will not be hindered by ability to spend money aka they are willing to shell out money if the name warrants it. Bill Clark doesn't warrant that much money hence Arkansas would be settling with someone like Bill Clark.
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Arkansas can throw big money at whoever they want but they're not coming
 
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CR-vol said:
What are you wanting to wager? Kiffin can't manage a big time program and no big time program is going to hire him as head coach again.
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Kiffin went 28-15 at USC with major scholly reductions and bowl bans...... Looking at what happened with Sark and Helton minus the two Darnold years, Kiffin's firing at USC was very premature from a idiotic administration that is a revolving door. Somehow they made the smart decision to let Helton return for next year.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
Kiffin went 28-15 at USC with major scholly reductions and bowl bans...... Looking at what happened with Sark and Helton minus the two Darnold years, Kiffin's firing at USC was very premature from a idiotic administration that is a revolving door. Somehow they made the smart decision to let Helton return for next year.
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And yet, Clay Helton is 40-21 as the head coach of USC with two conference/division championships and nobody would consider him a grand slam hire by any stretch. Steve Sarkisian was 12-6 as a head coach following Lane Kiffin and he was a raging alcoholic. Despite the notion that the scholarship bans gutted USC, he still had two five star quarterbacks on the roster his last two seasons and inherited Matt Barkley. Pete Carrol's last three seasons he had a combined record of 32-7 with his worst season being 9-4. Lane Kiffin inherited a wealth of talent and had five star talent across the board. He had zero excuses to not perform well.
 
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landscapingvol said:
And yet, Clay Helton is 40-21 as the head coach of USC with two conference/division championships and nobody would consider him a grand slam hire by any stretch. Steve Sarkisian was 12-6 as a head coach following Lane Kiffin and he was a raging alcoholic. Despite the notion that the scholarship bans gutted USC, he still had two five star quarterbacks on the roster his last two seasons and inherited Matt Barkley. Pete Carrol's last three seasons he had a combined record of 32-7 with his worst season being 9-4. Lane Kiffin inherited a wealth of talent and had five star talent across the board. He had zero excuses to not perform well.
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Once again, his firing was very premature from an unstable admin and AD. Considering what they got on the Sark and Helton years minus the two Darnold wonder seasons, they have hired worse coaches.

If not for bowl ban, he coaches in a PAC 12 title game and likely wins the conference in a rematch with Oregon.

Helton had Darnold to get to two good years.
 
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