Twitter saying Kiffin to Arkansas?

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05_never_again said:
What exactly are Arkansas's expectations? I don't think any of their fans are calling for SEC West titles. I think they want to win 7, 8 games and go to a decent bowl game, kind of like the season Tennessee had this year. Unlike Tennessee, I think they seem to be OK with that being their peak. The Petrino years were an aberration - Arkansas' last period of great success was in the early 60s under Frank Broyles. I don't think they are ever going to be a dominant SEC program, but I think they're OK with that.
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They want results just as good as what Petrino had them at. That was roughly 9 wins per year. Big ask for Arkansas to do in 3-4 years.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
They want results just as good as what Petrino had them at. That was roughly 9 wins per year. Big ask for Arkansas to do in 3-4 years.
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Petrino was better than that...he had a 5-7 "year zero" year, then by the second half of his tenure was playing in what are now NY6 bowl games and finishing in/around the top 10. If Petrino is the expectation, they will be disappointed. I'm thinking more like Bielema's 2014-16 years. For Arky's fans sakes, I hope deep down they aren't hoping for someone who can get the back to the Petrino years, because I don't think that's happening. I know it sucked...he had a top 5 team then pissed it all away because of a personal problem (it isn't like he faded out over time).

In his last 2 seasons Petrino lost only 5 games...#1 Alabama, at #7 Auburn, #6 Ohio St, #3 Alabama, and at #1 LSU. That just isn't going to happen at Arkansas consistently.
 
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05_never_again said:
Petrino was better than that...he had a 5-7 "year zero" year, then by the second half of his tenure was playing in what are now NY6 bowl games and finishing in/around the top 10. If Petrino is the expectation, they will be disappointed. I'm thinking more like Bielema's 2014-16 years. For Arky's fans sakes, I hope deep down they aren't hoping for someone who can get the back to the Petrino years, because I don't think that's happening. I know it sucked...he had a top 5 team then pissed it all away because of a personal problem (it isn't like he faded out over time).

In his last 2 seasons Petrino lost only 5 games...#1 Alabama, at #7 Auburn, #6 Ohio St, #3 Alabama, and at #1 LSU. That just isn't going to happen at Arkansas consistently.
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Arkansas would be better off leaving for the Big 12 and the SEC could invite Virginia Tech to take their place.
 
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05_never_again said:
Petrino was better than that...he had a 5-7 "year zero" year, then by the second half of his tenure was playing in what are now NY6 bowl games and finishing in/around the top 10. If Petrino is the expectation, they will be disappointed. I'm thinking more like Bielema's 2014-16 years. For Arky's fans sakes, I hope deep down they aren't hoping for someone who can get the back to the Petrino years, because I don't think that's happening. I know it sucked...he had a top 5 team then pissed it all away because of a personal problem (it isn't like he faded out over time).

In his last 2 seasons Petrino lost only 5 games...#1 Alabama, at #7 Auburn, #6 Ohio St, #3 Alabama, and at #1 LSU. That just isn't going to happen at Arkansas consistently.
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He won 34 games in 4 years with 22 coming in last two years courtesy of landing Ryan Mallett.

That is roughly 9 wins per season. The QB depth after Mallett wasn't great so there was an expected drop off. What I am saying is that Petrino Performance of 8-9 regular season wins average.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
He won 34 games in 4 years with 22 coming in last two years courtesy of landing Ryan Mallett.

That is roughly 9 wins per season. The QB depth after Mallett wasn't great so there was an expected drop off. What I am saying is that Petrino Performance of 8-9 regular season wins average.
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But most fans don't think in terms of an average number of wins. They think in terms of what a coach's peak is. When Arkansas fans and fans of CFB generally think of Petrino, they think of those 2 double-digit win years where they ended up in really good bowl games and even finished #5 in Petrino's final year. Calling Petrino an "8-win coach" at Arkansas, while factually accurate, doesn't exactly paint the full picture of him there. After a couple of years that allowed him to get settled, he got a QB and had a top 10 team in the country for a couple years, then he suddenly had to leave. Petrino's peak wasn't 8-9 wins...it likely was winning the SEC West. If he hung around longer, perhaps he would have had a chance to nip LSU (he actually did beat a #6 LSU team in 2010) and Alabama and win the West.

I think it's much more realistic for Arkansas fans to think of their peak as 8-9 regular season wins a year, and in off-peak years make a bowl game. That's different from a school like Tennessee, where an off-peak year should be something like 7-8 wins and a really good year being 10+ wins and in the mix for an SEC title/CFP spot. Tennessee has a long way to go to get to that peak, but I think the program is capable. I'm not sure a program like Arky is capable of that being their peak.
 
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Lane Kiffin isn't going to Ole Miss. I doubt any SEC school would hire him. It's all a bunch of fake twatter hype created by Lane himself. He's looking to get a raise at FAU because that's as good of a head coaching job as he will ever get. The guy burns bridges and really ain't got much to show for the past 12 years. If he was a good head coach he'd already have a 10+ year track record of the proof he was a good head coach.
 
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CR-vol said:
Lane Kiffin isn't going to Ole Miss. I doubt any SEC school would hire him. It's all a bunch of fake twatter hype created by Lane himself. He's looking to get a raise at FAU because that's as good of a head coaching job as he will ever get. The guy burns bridges and really ain't got much to show for the past 12 years. If he was a good head coach he'd already have a 10+ year track record of the proof he was a good head coach.
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He took over a team that had won a combined 9 games in the 3 seasons before he got there and proceeded to win 11 games, going undefeated in their conference and winning the CUSA title in year 1. He's back in the conference championship game in year 3, with another shot at 11 wins. Just prior to that he won a natty as an OC, and was the OC of the Tide all the way thru the semifinals of the playoffs the following year before he left for FAU (they lost the natty that year without him).

So.... he's going to get another big time gig, and he's earned it this time.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
He won 34 games in 4 years with 22 coming in last two years courtesy of landing Ryan Mallett.

That is roughly 9 wins per season. The QB depth after Mallett wasn't great so there was an expected drop off. What I am saying is that Petrino Performance of 8-9 regular season wins average.
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Tyler Wilson was 1st team all-SEC after Mallett left in 2011 and threw for 24 TDs to 6 INTs. He regressed under John L. Smith though and ended up only being a 4th round pick after projected much higher.

Petrino was 2-2 against LSU and 3-1 against Auburn. But his recruiting wasn't good enough to sustain winning 10-11 every year IMO. It probably would have settled around 8 wins a year with the occasional season above and below that. Which I think is what most Arkansas fans expect. Both of Nutt and Petrino's best players were from Arkansas even though people keep saying we should focus 99% of our resources on Texas lol.
 
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@GoBigOrangeVols Keep thinking that if you want. FSU is about as big time as it gets and he's not a serious candidate. He's got 3 seasons as a head coach in CUSA. Not impressed with anything any coach does in CUSA. It's CUSA. There are plenty of coaches with similar OC credentials that don't have a bridge burning and job hopping history to match Lane's. He should have 10 years of head coaching in his rear view mirror right now. He's a self absorbed flake that doesnt stick to commitments. He'll never get a shot at a school like FSU or anywhere bigtime
 
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05_never_again said:
Petrino was better than that...he had a 5-7 "year zero" year, then by the second half of his tenure was playing in what are now NY6 bowl games and finishing in/around the top 10. If Petrino is the expectation, they will be disappointed. I'm thinking more like Bielema's 2014-16 years. For Arky's fans sakes, I hope deep down they aren't hoping for someone who can get the back to the Petrino years, because I don't think that's happening. I know it sucked...he had a top 5 team then pissed it all away because of a personal problem (it isn't like he faded out over time).

In his last 2 seasons Petrino lost only 5 games...#1 Alabama, at #7 Auburn, #6 Ohio St, #3 Alabama, and at #1 LSU. That just isn't going to happen at Arkansas consistently.
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It is impossible, once having tasted the heady nectar of real success, to once again be slaked with the dregs of mediocrity. It will remain a ravenous thirst that consumes the soul.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
He won 34 games in 4 years with 22 coming in last two years courtesy of landing Ryan Mallett.

That is roughly 9 wins per season. The QB depth after Mallett wasn't great so there was an expected drop off. What I am saying is that Petrino Performance of 8-9 regular season wins average.
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Yes they think they can replicate that success by year 3. Same as Mizzou thinking they can find another Pinkel. Hey, maybe Mizzou can hire Petrino. Arky should be happy with Blake Anderson.
 
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
He took over a team that had won a combined 9 games in the 3 seasons before he got there and proceeded to win 11 games, going undefeated in their conference and winning the CUSA title in year 1. He's back in the conference championship game in year 3, with another shot at 11 wins. Just prior to that he won a natty as an OC, and was the OC of the Tide all the way thru the semifinals of the playoffs the following year before he left for FAU (they lost the natty that year without him).

So.... he's going to get another big time gig, and he's earned it this time.
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He’s also won more games in his 3 seasons than FAU did in the 7-8 seasons before him.
 
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Kiffin is off the chain, but he can coach and motivate his players. If Arky can land him they better jump on it.
 
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CR-vol said:
@GoBigOrangeVols Keep thinking that if you want. FSU is about as big time as it gets and he's not a serious candidate. He's got 3 seasons as a head coach in CUSA. Not impressed with anything any coach does in CUSA. It's CUSA. There are plenty of coaches with similar OC credentials that don't have a bridge burning and job hopping history to match Lane's. He should have 10 years of head coaching in his rear view mirror right now. He's a self absorbed flake that doesnt stick to commitments. He'll never get a shot at a school like FSU or anywhere bigtime
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Wanna place a wager? He's gonna get a P5 job this year or next.
 
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That'd be about as stupid as what Rutgers just did. Why does Kiffin, much like Gruden, seem to have so many of our fans under a spell? He ain't done squat as a head coach. Somebody mentioned Conf USA lol... He's a loser. Nobody actually hiring coaches thinks he's a good head coach hire at a big time school and that's the only job Kiffin wants to try and stick around at.

He's been a big failure 2 times at college big time and once in the NFL. Arkansas, Ole Miss and Mizzou ain't the big time. They'd be stepping stones for Lame and he'd set their programs back 10 years like he did UT and USC if they were dumb enough to hire him. Now FSU is a big time job but they ain't stupid enough to hire a joke like Kiffin.

He's a good OC at the big time and can manage a smaller team in a nothing conference. He doesn't stick to commitments and he's always looking for something better. That's his ceiling and he ain't getting any younger.
 
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CR-vol said:
That'd be about as stupid as what Rutgers just did. Why does Kiffin, much like Gruden, seem to have so many of our fans under a spell? He ain't done squat as a head coach. Somebody mentioned Conf USA lol... He's a loser. Nobody actually hiring coaches thinks he's a good head coach hire at a big time school and that's the only job Kiffin wants to try and stick around at.

He's been a big failure 2 times at college big time and once in the NFL. Arkansas, Ole Miss and Mizzou ain't the big time. They'd be stepping stones for Lame and he'd set their programs back 10 years like he did UT and USC if they were dumb enough to hire him. Now FSU is a big time job but they ain't stupid enough to hire a joke like Kiffin.

He's a good OC at the big time and can manage a smaller team in a nothing conference. He doesn't stick to commitments and he's always looking for something better. That's his ceiling and he ain't getting any younger.
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So that's a no?

Kiffin didn't set back USC, Carrol did.
 
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