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Former Alabama WR Tyrone Prothro testifies at Ed O'Bannon trial, discusses heavy workload, surgeries, unpaid loans | AL.com

-- Prothro said he was forced to pay the university $10 for photos of "The Catch" in order to include them in his 2008 autobiography. Alabama received a $10,000 donation to its general scholarship fund when the play was recognized as the "Pontiac Game Changing Performance Play of the Week" and another $100,000 when it was named the play of the year.

Alabama paid for Prothro's surgeries, but he left school with $10,000 in debt because of unpaid student loans. He needed the money for "some bills that may have gotten behind." He's yet to finish paying off the loans.
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bamawriter said:
Further proof that the NCAA and the schools are full of crap.
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If you don't think these athletes are taken care of, you're crazy.

I've never seen athletes truly struggle, I see them going out to eat, driving nice cars, going out to clubs, getting tats, wearing nice clothes.

This woe is me dialogue is simply to draw sympathy so they can try to get paid.

The average college athlete has more spending money than the average college student. They get their whole scholarship, plus the hope scholarship, plus pell grants.

My best friend was the QB at Tenn Tech, and he got a $10,000 check back after everything was paid for school, got a stipend check every month, got a rent check that covered way more than his rent. Dude lived way better than anyone else.
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
If you don't think these athletes are taken care of, you're crazy.

I've never seen athletes truly struggle, I see them going out to eat, driving nice cars, going out to clubs, getting tats, wearing nice clothes.

This woe is me dialogue is simply to draw sympathy so they can try to get paid.

The average college athlete has more spending money than the average college student. They get their whole scholarship, plus the hope scholarship, plus pell grants.

My best friend was the QB at Tenn Tech, and he got a $10,000 check back after everything was paid for school, got a stipend check every month, got a rent check that covered way more than his rent. Dude lived way better than anyone else.
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You are simply reiterating my point.

And it's nice to know that even Tennessee Tech is "cheating".
 
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UT_Tix79 said:
If you don't think these athletes are taken care of, you're crazy.

I've never seen athletes truly struggle, I see them going out to eat, driving nice cars, going out to clubs, getting tats, wearing nice clothes.

This woe is me dialogue is simply to draw sympathy so they can try to get paid.

The average college athlete has more spending money than the average college student. They get their whole scholarship, plus the hope scholarship, plus pell grants.

My best friend was the QB at Tenn Tech, and he got a $10,000 check back after everything was paid for school, got a stipend check every month, got a rent check that covered way more than his rent. Dude lived way better than anyone else.
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And what is wrong with them getting paid? They deserve it. It's them that brings in millions for the NCAA, conferences and schools. They deserve their portion.

The only people who are against it are people butthurt from having to pay for college even though they did nothing for their school. Pretty sure you never brought in money for Tenn Tech like your friend did.
 
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whocaresgobobcats said:
And what is wrong with them getting paid? They deserve it. It's them that brings in millions for the NCAA, conferences and schools. They deserve their portion.

The only people who are against it are people butthurt from having to pay for college even though they did nothing for their school. Pretty sure you never brought in money for Tenn Tech like your friend did.
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Are only football players getting paid? Will it be based on how profitable that athlete or that sport is?
 
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If schools are forced to pay athletes. Wonder if schools will drop in the number of scholarships from 85 to 60 to pay less people. Basketball from 15 to 12 or something like that. Just like businesses have to make cuts in the number of people to make payroll
 
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Vol8188 said:
What bills?
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If Prothro and his family weren't meeting obligations then that's their own fault - not the NCAA's...Anytime a person has to pay a bill with a loan, they already have a problem...a little off topic and of course a player can be hurt on any play and what happened to Prothro is an unfortunate part of the game but what was he doing still in the game at 31-3 in the 4th quarter vs Florida in '05? He should sue Mike Shula.
 
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I still don't see how it is anybody but the athletes fault that they go out and live fun lives piling up debt. In the real world this happens all the time, but because they are an athlete the school should be paying for their cell phone, gas for their cars, dinners at nice restaurants with multiple friends, buying expensive jewelry, getting tattoos, clothes, cars, video games, TVs, ipods, laptops etc etc .... bs. The players have to learn to be fiscally responsible and not spend more than they make, which yes in some cases is nothing. But they have the basics and then a lot more covered, they get into trouble trying to live 'the life'. If I didn't have money in college I didn't eat, that happened several times. If I didn't have walking around money I didn't go out on the town that weekend, choices, some people make wrong ones and don't want to live with the consequences.
 
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LouderVol said:
I still don't see how it is anybody but the athletes fault that they go out and live fun lives piling up debt. In the real world this happens all the time, but because they are an athlete the school should be paying for their cell phone, gas for their cars, dinners at nice restaurants with multiple friends, buying expensive jewelry, getting tattoos, clothes, cars, video games, TVs, ipods, laptops etc etc .... bs. The players have to learn to be fiscally responsible and not spend more than they make, which yes in some cases is nothing. But they have the basics and then a lot more covered, they get into trouble trying to live 'the life'. If I didn't have money in college I didn't eat, that happened several times. If I didn't have walking around money I didn't go out on the town that weekend, choices, some people make wrong ones and don't want to live with the consequences.
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Solid post. When these litigants accepted their scholarship offers they did so with the understanding that they were not employees of the university but students who would be representing the university in competition. As compensation for the time and effort this representation demanded they were provided free books, tuition, room and board and a stipend which the average student is not afforded. It is not the responsibility of any university to provide a livelihood to it's students. A university merely provides an opportunity for it's students to acquire skills necessary to provide a livelihood for themselves.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
...a little off topic and of course a player can be hurt on any play and what happened to Prothro is an unfortunate part of the game but what was he doing still in the game at 31-3 in the 4th quarter vs Florida in '05? He should sue Mike Shula.
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Wrong answer
 
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LouderVol said:
I still don't see how it is anybody but the athletes fault that they go out and live fun lives piling up debt. In the real world this happens all the time, but because they are an athlete the school should be paying for their cell phone, gas for their cars, dinners at nice restaurants with multiple friends, buying expensive jewelry, getting tattoos, clothes, cars, video games, TVs, ipods, laptops etc etc .... bs. The players have to learn to be fiscally responsible and not spend more than they make, which yes in some cases is nothing. But they have the basics and then a lot more covered, they get into trouble trying to live 'the life'. If I didn't have money in college I didn't eat, that happened several times. If I didn't have walking around money I didn't go out on the town that weekend, choices, some people make wrong ones and don't want to live with the consequences.
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Great post.

If you've been around student athletes for any length of time, you quickly learn they live like kings compared to the general student population. That's the case at Florida, FIU, Tennessee or Chattanooga.

I find it interesting that people who are in favor of paying players based on the "revenue they generate" rarely if ever take into account the university's cost of providing scholarships, medical benefits for student athletes, etc...for the entire athletic department.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Great post.

If you've been around student athletes for any length of time, you quickly learn they live like kings compared to the general student population. That's the case at Florida, FIU, Tennessee or Chattanooga.

I find it interesting that people who are in favor of paying players based on the "revenue they generate" rarely if ever take into account the university's cost of providing scholarships, medical benefits for student athletes, etc...for the entire athletic department.
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Using Alabama as an example:

If we were to take the cost of an annual scholarship for an out-of-state student, and multiply that by 85 players (and let's not kid ourselves, it doesn't actually cost the school as much money as they charge) then the cost of educating and housing the football team ate up roughly 3% of the revenue that the football team generated last year.

So, yeah, I'm still going to crap on the way the schools operate when it comes to athletics.
 
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bamawriter said:
Using Alabama as an example:

If we were to take the cost of an annual scholarship for an out-of-state student, and multiply that by 85 players (and let's not kid ourselves, it doesn't actually cost the school as much money as they charge) then the cost of educating and housing the football team ate up roughly 3% of the revenue that the football team generated last year.

So, yeah, I'm still going to crap on the way the schools operate when it comes to athletics.
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And really, is an out of state football player going to cost anymore than an in state player? The in state/out state student costs they use is a joke.
 
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bamawriter said:
Using Alabama as an example:

If we were to take the cost of an annual scholarship for an out-of-state student, and multiply that by 85 players (and let's not kid ourselves, it doesn't actually cost the school as much money as they charge) then the cost of educating and housing the football team ate up roughly 3% of the revenue that the football team generated last year.

So, yeah, I'm still going to crap on the way the schools operate when it comes to athletics.
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Here lies that fundamental problem with your argument. You're using one of the most profitable teams as a case in point as if their model applies to everyone. It doesn't. In 2009, only 57% of FBS football programs reported being profitable while only 14 out of 120 athletic depts. as a whole reported making money. I think you are also underestimating the amount of money spent per student athlete in a given school year. The median expense per student athlete in 2009 was $76,000 according to the NCAA.

The breakdown that College Athletic Depts. spend on average in a school year is:

* (32%) Salaries and Benefits - Alabama in particular needs that small army of a recruiting administrative staff after all...
* (25%) Scholarships (Grants In Aid)
* (13%) Facilities Maintenance and Rental - You gotta have waterfalls and arcades and such...
* (7%) Team Travel - It's worth noting that this is obviously not standard and that West Virginia's travel expenses since joining the Big 12 have been a much higher % of their budget than this...
* (5%) Recruiting - That's the name of the game.
* (4%) Game Expenses - I don't exactly know what this would include :dunno: ...

Of course, even if you allow the few athletic depts. that are profitable to share their revenue with their athletes, they couldn't just pay football players and nobody else. They would have to pay athletes in non-revenue sports as well or there would be law suits galore.
 
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I never understood how 4 year colleges come up with these scholarship prices. It cost $4,000 to take a years worth of classes at the local community college. It's the same basic classes that most athletes take their first two or even three years, and many of the same teachers that Universities hire on a part time basis.
 
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