U of Miami thugs and hooligans

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Several folks on this board have commented with dismay at some of the off-the-field problems of UT players. No offense, but for hooliganism and thuggery, the University of Miami is hands down #1.

Have you ever looked into the stands at their games? I've been to one or two. Let me tell you right now that at least 60 percent of the people at any given UM home game have never stepped foot on the campus.



From ESPN....

A 2-year-old profanity-laced recording that denigrates women and minorities surfaced on the Web on Tuesday, putting the University of Miami's athletic department on the defensive about its image.


Miami's carefully cultivated image as a school well-past the days that earned it the reputation as a program lacking institutional control may have taken a blow when the rap song, which sources told ESPN.com includes the voices of several football players, surfaced on the Internet.


A group calling itself the 7th Floor Crew -- the name reportedly comes from the seventh floor of the Mahoney Residential College, campus housing at Miami -- made a recording referencing multiple acts of group sex, derogatory terms for women and minorities and dozens of curse words that lasts approximately 9 minutes. School officials say the song was recorded two years ago, but that seems to offer little solace.


"The Athletic Department has been made aware of a private audio recording made two years ago by students in a residence hall, some of whom were student-athletes," athletic director Paul Dee said Wednesday night in a statement through the school's sports information department. "The content of the recording is unfortunate, inappropriate and demeaning. This speech is not appropriate and does not reflect the values of the University or the Athletic Department.


"While the recording was made privately, it was not intended for public distribution or use. To be clear, the University and the Athletic Department disapprove of the content and its references. To those who may hear this material, we apologize. Any students whose voices can be identified will be subject to appropriate discipline and/or counseling."


Kyle Munzenrieder, a Miami student and author of the blog Miamity.com that published a report on the song, identified at least one of the members of the 7th Floor Crew as a current football player.


"I live on the 6th floor, and have good friends on the 7th floor, and those two floors are where a lot of football players live," Munzenrieder wrote ESPN.com in an e-mail Wednesday night. "The song really isn't indicative of the attitude of the current football players, and the 7th floor isn't some sort of hedonistic fantasy dorm zone."
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Nov 17, 2005 3:51 PM
Several folks on this board have commented with dismay at some of the off-the-field problems of UT players.  No offense, but for hooliganism and thuggery, the University of Miami is hands down #1.

Have you ever looked into the stands at their games?  I've been to one or two.  Let me tell you right now that at least 60 percent of the people at any given UM home game have never stepped foot on the campus.
From ESPN....

A 2-year-old profanity-laced recording that denigrates women and minorities surfaced on the Web on Tuesday, putting the University of Miami's athletic department on the defensive about its image.
Miami's carefully cultivated image as a school well-past the days that earned it the reputation as a program lacking institutional control may have taken a blow when the rap song, which sources told ESPN.com includes the voices of several football players, surfaced on the Internet.
A group calling itself the 7th Floor Crew -- the name reportedly comes from the seventh floor of the Mahoney Residential College, campus housing at Miami -- made a recording referencing multiple acts of group sex, derogatory terms for women and minorities and dozens of curse words that lasts approximately 9 minutes. School officials say the song was recorded two years ago, but that seems to offer little solace.
"The Athletic Department has been made aware of a private audio recording made two years ago by students in a residence hall, some of whom were student-athletes," athletic director Paul Dee said Wednesday night in a statement through the school's sports information department. "The content of the recording is unfortunate, inappropriate and demeaning. This speech is not appropriate and does not reflect the values of the University or the Athletic Department.
"While the recording was made privately, it was not intended for public distribution or use. To be clear, the University and the Athletic Department disapprove of the content and its references. To those who may hear this material, we apologize. Any students whose voices can be identified will be subject to appropriate discipline and/or counseling."
Kyle Munzenrieder, a Miami student and author of the blog Miamity.com that published a report on the song, identified at least one of the members of the 7th Floor Crew as a current football player.
"I live on the 6th floor, and have good friends on the 7th floor, and those two floors are where a lot of football players live," Munzenrieder wrote ESPN.com in an e-mail Wednesday night. "The song really isn't indicative of the attitude of the current football players, and the 7th floor isn't some sort of hedonistic fantasy dorm zone."
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Nice to see you conveniently omitted the portion of the story containing the fact that not a single player has been convicted of a criminal offense during Larry Coker's tenure.
 
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I think that most of those guys on the Miami sideline wearing coats and ties are probably player's parole officers...

:p
 
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Originally posted by hatvol96@Nov 17, 2005 4:01 PM
Nice to see you conveniently omitted the portion of the story containing the fact that not a single player has been convicted of a criminal offense during Larry Coker's tenure.
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Huh? Here's a link to the story itself: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2226701

I don't see anything about that in there. Maybe I missed it.
 
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Originally posted by hatvol96@Nov 17, 2005 5:07 PM
I apologize. The arrest issue is mentioned in Pat Forde's ESPN.com commentary on this situation.
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Ohhhhh. Okay, no worries.

I'll pound on Miami like no tomorrow, but not to the point of taking stuff out of context. I'll look for that article.
 
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Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 17, 2005 9:01 PM
its a rap song. that is all rap is.
big deal.

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True, but it makes them look bad.

And that makes me happy.

I know that is juvenile.

I don't care.
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Nov 17, 2005 9:45 PM
True, but it makes them look bad.

And that makes me happy.

I know that is juvenile.

I don't care.
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u think that miami is the only school who have rappers or wannabe thugs or gangstas. hell no.

all the programs are full of young black males. and that is what they like. only a certain few will actually take it farther than they should.

take a look around gainesville law. or knoxville or tuscaloosa. it is everywhere.

this is a song. not an act of violence or anything like that. reminds me of t.o.

he has never once been in any kind of trouble. he plays his ass off every play. but he likes to talk so now he is the most hated. biggest bunch of crap on the planet.

hell sean taylor killed someone and he is still playing. so did ray lewis, and he is a king in baltimore. we need to take a good look at what we are letting these guys get away with.
 
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I'm sure Mr. Kyle Smokinreefer is either one big bad dude with lots of protection or he's being paid a lot of visits by people not too thrilled with him commenting to ESPN on this making the story even bigger than it needs to be.
 
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Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 17, 2005 9:50 PM
so did ray lewis, and he is a king in baltimore.
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No Ray was smart enough to have his right-hand man do the killing. then they both deny it. Out of three people who were there one is dead and the other two deny....good system huh?
 
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We can't forget about Mr. Winslow Jr. blow up in your face about being pissed, the U and all that jazz. Put a gun in his hand that day and there'd be a handful of dead reporters....
 
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Originally posted by CSpindizzy@Nov 17, 2005 11:38 PM
We can't forget about Mr. Winslow Jr. blow up in your face about being pissed, the U and all that jazz. Put a gun in his hand that day and there'd be a handful of dead reporters....
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because he's a "-------" soldier!!!!!! and apparently knocking a TE down on the line of scrimmage is illegal
 
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Originally posted by IBleedOrange@Nov 17, 2005 10:59 PM
because he's a "-------" soldier!!!!!!  and apparently knocking a TE down on the line of scrimmage is illegal
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He thinks he's a soldier huh? Throw that punk in Baghdad and see how quick he wets his pants.
 
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I know this is off-topic, but I don't care...T-O does not play his ass off. It is routine for him to run hard until he is close to the sideline and then literally strut out of bounds instead of challenging a smaller defender for extra yardage. As for all of the negative attention he receives, I think it is fair to say that some of that should also go to Steve Smith. I have never heard Smith snub his teammates to the media, but Smith's endzone celebrations are selfish and bad-spirited and have no place in football. You'll never see Tomlinson act like that. Sorry for digressing, but T-O and S-S have been on my mind.
 
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The only good thing about TO are his endzone antics... oops... did I say that? But we don't need him anymore now that we got Chad Johnson and Steve Smith.
 
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Originally posted by checkerboard_charly@Nov 17, 2005 9:50 PM
u think that miami is the only school who have rappers or wannabe thugs or gangstas.  hell no.

all the programs are full of young black males. and that is what they like. only a certain few will actually take it farther than they should.

take a look around gainesville law. or knoxville or tuscaloosa. it is everywhere.

this is a song. not an act of violence or anything like that. reminds me of t.o.

he has never once been in any kind of trouble. he plays his ass off every play. but he likes to talk so now he is the most hated. biggest bunch of crap on the planet.

hell sean taylor killed someone and he is still playing. so did ray lewis, and he is a king in baltimore. we need to take a good look at what we are letting these guys get away with.

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Sean Taylor never killed anyone. Get the facts straight.
 
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When I was these kids' age, older people always said they couldn't understand our culture, music, etc., that they thought it had no soul and was too violent or just plain hard to understand. But, they said their parents said the same things about them and that when we grew up we'd feel the same way about the next generation.

I think there is a bit more going on these days than that and I also think we are seeing some real revolt out there and I'm not sure what's going to happen about it. Look at the story with the Vikings. Look at TO. Look at what happens when the NBA tries to adopt a dress code for guys not playing but who are on the sidelines.

On the one hand, it does frustrate me and make me a little mad when someone making $5 million a year to play a sport complains that "we" want him to dress the part as "we" see fit because "we" are upset by his honoring hip hop culture. You ever go to an NBA game? At $80 a pop, minimum, not a whole lot of inner city youth in the stands.

On the other hand, is this just us going too far in trying to rein in the younger people of today because we can't understand their culture, music, etc.? Who cares what an NBA player wears if he's not playing that night? Is it "us" just putting him in his "place"? Exercising our authority of the purse string becasue we can?

All difficult issues for me.

 
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If putting out a song like this meant UT winning like Miami, I would be all for it.
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Nov 18, 2005 10:32 AM
When I was these kids' age, older people always said they couldn't understand our culture, music, etc., that they thought it had no soul and was too violent or just plain hard to understand.  But, they said their parents said the same things about them and that when we grew up we'd feel the same way about the next generation.

I think there is a bit more going on these days than that and I also think we are seeing some real revolt out there and I'm not sure what's going to happen about it.  Look at the story with the Vikings.  Look at TO.  Look at what happens when the NBA tries to adopt a dress code for guys not playing but who are on the sidelines.

On the one hand, it does frustrate me and make me a little mad when someone making $5 million a year to play a sport complains that "we" want him to dress the part as "we" see fit because "we" are upset by his honoring hip hop culture.  You ever go  to an NBA game?  At $80 a pop, minimum, not a whole lot of inner city youth in the stands.

On the other hand, is this just us going too far in trying to rein in the younger people of today because we can't understand their culture, music, etc.?  Who cares what an NBA player wears if he's not playing that night?  Is it "us" just putting him in his "place"?  Exercising our authority of the purse string becasue we can?

All difficult issues for me.
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"Cruzin down the street in my 6-Fo"
 
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Originally posted by hatvol96@Nov 18, 2005 10:13 AM
Sean Taylor never killed anyone. Get the facts straight.
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wow. ur very aggressive arent ya?

im sorry it was felony count of aggravated assault with a firearm, which isnt much better.
 
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Checkerboard, Assault with a firearm and killing someone are drastically different
 
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Originally posted by U-T@Nov 18, 2005 7:08 PM
Checkerboard, Assault with a firearm and killing someone are drastically different
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i know but u know me. i gotta argue everything.
 
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Eh, my girlfriend always calls me a know-it-all big mouth. I tend to agree
 
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Are we stereotyping Miami fans. Anyways, I think if the media would quit inventing stories as the Miami song more things like Iraq bombings we would probably be better off and the bombings may even cease over there.

:focus:
 

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