The word "ultimate" says all time to me. We are one of the top college programs in college football history. We can define college All-Americans at every position and have 19 members of the College Hall of Fame to choose from including two in the Pro Hall of Fame. That doesn't count a couple in the NFL now that may someday be in the college fall and at least one, that guy out there in Denver, in the Pro Hall of Fame. The vote is a popularity contest in the doldrums of summer to get attention.