University of Alabama students march through campus in response to racial slur

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L I G. Rise above the stupidity and move on. It can be done. If some frat boy think it's cute to write or say stupid **** like that then let them. Their stupidity shows when they root for a team that's probably 75% black but say stupid stuff. Move on brothers and sisters, move on.
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Billy Costigan said:
Amen Grizz, amen.
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It does no good to female dog about it, it has been WAY worse things that has happened to black people than some silly ass frat boy talking ****!! My grandfather is 83 and I remember saying when I was a kid "that's racist". My grandfather told me to shut your mouth boy, you don't know what racist is. If someone do that to me I brush it off because I'm better than them.
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Coach Grizz said:
It does no good to female dog about it, it has been WAY worse things that has happened to black people than some silly ass frat boy talking ****!! My grandfather is 83 and I remember saying when I was a kid "that's racist". My grandfather told me to shut your mouth boy, you don't know what racist is. If someone do that to me I brush it off because I'm better than them.
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Grizz, you are in my top three favorite posters on the board. Very wise, brought up well, just a great guy.
 
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I wonder what percent of people in the States would disrespect each other in this fashion.
 
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Coach Grizz said:
So this frat is all around D-bags?
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Not D-bags but just a weird bunch. They would offer everyone who went through rush, without even meeting anyone. It was kinda sad, like a wounded puppy. So I am sure they attract losers.


you just described every frat in existence...
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You dont know what you are talking about
 
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If the moron can yell racial slurs from his house and get off with a slap on the wrist, these kids can peacefully march in protest.
 
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Not that I know what it's like to be a minority, but it seems to me if it is an isolated incident of this small measure, then maybe making a big deal out of it might actually encourage racists.
 
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PoochPunt3rdDown said:
I think being born in Alabama has already encouraged it enough.
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Hmm....maybe not. If one racial slur by a nobody is enough to get a protest going, there probably isn't too much of a race issue, IMO.

Racism is despicable, but I think that it's an issue that is overemphasized and detracts us from pivotal issues where real change could be exacted if more energy were focused there.
 
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This article sums up my feelings exactly. It's by African American Economist (my favorite economist), Walter Williams:

When I think of the behavior of today's civil rights organizations, I often think of the March of Dimes. In 1938, President Roosevelt helped found the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis to fight polio, an epidemic that crippled thousands of Americans. The name March of Dimes was coined by Eddie Cantor in his fundraising effort asking every American to contribute a dime.

Since 1970, polio has been eradicated in the U.S., but the March of Dimes lives on, and they're asking for more than dimes. When they accomplish their mission, most organizations don't fold the tent; they simply change their agenda. The March of Dimes now raises money to fight against birth defects, premature birth and other infant health problems. We'd probably deem them stupid if they continued their battle against polio in America. Why? Because polio has been eradicated.

What about civil rights organizations? Last week, Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, the National Urban League, and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference organized a march in Atlanta to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. The Bush administration and House Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner have already said they intend to support full reauthorization of its provisions set to expire in 2007.

Speakers at the march used some of the most vile rhetoric in their criticism of black conservatives and the Bush administration. Harry Belafonte explained to reporter Marc Morano, of Cybercast News Service, in obvious reference to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and former Secretary of State Colin Powell, "[If] a black is a tyrant, he is first and foremost a tyrant, then he incidentally is black. Bush is a tyrant and if he gathers around him black tyrants, they all have to be treated as they are being treated," adding, "Hitler had a lot of Jews high up in the hierarchy of the Third Reich. Color does not necessarily denote quality, content or value."

Comedian Dick Gregory opined, "They [black conservatives] have a right to exist, but why would I want to walk around with a swastika on my shirt after the way Hitler done messed it [the swastika symbol] up?" Moreover, Gregory explained, "So why would I want to call myself a conservative after the way them white racists thugs have used that word to hide behind? They call themselves new Republicans." Complementing Gregory's remarks, Jesse Jackson rhymed, "Race baiters and discriminators may go underground, but they never move out of town."

There were less intemperate speakers at the march, such as House of Representatives members Nancy Pelosi, Charles Rangel, John Conyers, Barbara Lee and Maxine Waters. Their remarks consisted of attacks on the president and vice president, accusing them of stealing the 2000 and 2004 elections, wrongly invading Iraq and a poor civil rights record.

Like the March of Dimes' victory against polio in the U.S., civil rights organizations can claim victory as well. At one time, black Americans did not enjoy the same constitutional guarantees as other Americans. Now we do. Because the civil rights struggle is over and won doesn't mean that all problems have vanished within the black community. A 70 percent illegitimacy rate, 65 percent of black children raised in female-headed households, high crime rates and fraudulent education are devastating problems, but they're not civil rights problems. Furthermore, their solutions do not lie in civil rights strategies.

Civil rights organizations' expenditure of resources and continued focus on racial discrimination is just as intelligent as it would be for the March of Dimes to continue to expend resources fighting polio in the U.S. Like the March of Dimes, civil rights organizations should revise their agenda and take on the big, non-civil rights problems that make socioeconomic progress impossible for a large segment of the black community.
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PoochPunt3rdDown said:
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In summation:

March of Dimes would be stupid to keep fighting Polio (the reason March of Dimes was founded) after they've already found a cure. March of Dimes now does good by focusing on birth defects and other areas.

Civil rights organizations are still fighting Polio, so to speak, even though they've already established equal protection by law. So if they want to improve the plight of minorities, they'd be better served taking on "non-civil rights problems that make socioeconomic progress impossible for a large segment of [minorities]".
 
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i agree somewhat here. Though I would like a group formed that summarily give out beatings to the cowardly little bastards that call out slurs from their windows.
 
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PoochPunt3rdDown said:
I think being born in Alabama has already encouraged it enough.
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how do we even know the person suspected of hurling the epithet is from Alabama or anywhere in the South?

also, there are instances of black students creating fake "hate crimes" just so they can "start a discussion"
 
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MG1968 said:
how do we even know the person suspected of hurling the epithet is from Alabama or anywhere in the South?

also, there are instances of black students creating fake "hate crimes" just so they can "start a discussion"
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Not that that's what happened in this case, but isn't it just one student's word? If they are mad at the University for not taking action, it's kind of hard to blame the University when the case is so flimsy.
 
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This sorta happened at UT back in 2000. Kappa Sigs had a costume party and a pledge dressed up as James Brown (painted his face black) and did an onstage performance (wasnt racist) anyway someone saw them going into the bar where the party was held (now called new amsterdam) and they asked whose party it was, the bouncer answered and by monday morning people were protesting
 
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excerpt from the OP article:

"We just wanted to bring awareness to the campus to show that this is something that is going on that needs to be addressed, needs to be handled, needs to be fixed, needs to be changed, so that every student on this campus can feel safe about being themselves, that you don't have to conform to anything else to be a part of this campus," Johnson said.
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Translation:
We think everyone should talk, act and behave in the fashion we approve of so no one has to conform to anything else to be a part of this campus.

Racism is pure evil. Censorship is also pure evil. You can't fight evil with evil. Evil wins either way.
 
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