Urban Cryer finally nailed in media

#5
#5
The man does have a point about looking ahead. FSU is do or die and Arkansas is the hottest team in the SEC right now. Beware the Urban Cryer
 
#7
#7
quote=finevol;490411]Fla last NC was againts Fla St. a repeat match, ironic.[/quote]


Yeah, but that was different. Florida fell to #4 after the regular season game against FSU. Then they had to win the SEC Championship game and hope teams in front of them lost. Luckily for the Gators, they won the SEC CG and teams in front of them lost.

Atleast that's what I hear from the Gators.
 
#10
#10
In 1985 the same type things were being said by Miami in preparation for their Sugar Bowl game with the Vols. They were crying constantly that they should be considered equally with Oklahoma for the National Championship. The Sporting News column after the game was brutal to the "U" and their incessant whining. The final sentences were something like, "So after the Sugar Bowl whipping Miami was ranked number (whatever). How high is that, too damn high."
I expect my friend Hat was tied in knots over that one with all his favorite teams and coaches involved. Of course he was probably a little boy then so it was less a struggle.
 
#11
#11
In 1985 the same type things were being said by Miami in preparation for their Sugar Bowl game with the Vols. They were crying constantly that they should be considered equally with Oklahoma for the National Championship. The Sporting News column after the game was brutal to the "U" and their incessant whining. The final sentences were something like, "So after the Sugar Bowl whipping Miami was ranked number (whatever). How high is that, too damn high."
I expect my friend Hat was tied in knots over that one with all his favorite teams and coaches involved. Of course he was probably a little boy then so it was less a struggle.


Miami was hoping for an Oklahoma win against Penn St. If Miami beat Tennessee and Oklahoma beat Penn St., Miami would have won the NC because they beat Oklahoma. After Tennessee crushed the canes, AND Oklahoma won, I imagine that poured salt into their wounds.
 
#12
#12
In 1985 the same type things were being said by Miami in preparation for their Sugar Bowl game with the Vols. They were crying constantly that they should be considered equally with Oklahoma for the National Championship. The Sporting News column after the game was brutal to the "U" and their incessant whining. The final sentences were something like, "So after the Sugar Bowl whipping Miami was ranked number (whatever). How high is that, too damn high."
I expect my friend Hat was tied in knots over that one with all his favorite teams and coaches involved. Of course he was probably a little boy then so it was less a struggle.
1. I was 14.
2. I wasn't at all ambivalent. I was rooting for UT and OU.
 
#13
#13
Miami was hoping for an Oklahoma win against Penn St. If Miami beat Tennessee and Oklahoma beat Penn St., Miami would have won the NC because they beat Oklahoma. After Tennessee crushed the canes, AND Oklahoma won, I imagine that poured salt into their wounds.

I was only 13 at the time, but I can vividly remember two things about the pregame show . . . 1) Jimmy Johnson politicking about being #1 rather than saying what he should have said (We can only worry about tonight and what happens happens). 2) The ludicrous spectacle of ABC putting all the starters in riverboat gambler costumes.
 
#15
#15
I have no problem with people chastising Meyer for his comments in light of the situation with Florida and FSU in '96. That's fair game.

But if you think Meyer is "looking ahead" to the bowls, or assuming wins over FSU and Arky, you're nuts. It would make no sense. As far as I can tell from his comments, he never said anything fo the sort. Folks are reading that in to his comments.

Whatever.
 
#16
#16
I have no problem with people chastising Meyer for his comments in light of the situation with Florida and FSU in '96. That's fair game.

You know, a coach is supposed ot politic for his team. Mack Brown took a lot of heat, but he did get his team into the Rose Bowl. It is part of the job to promote the program, even to the pollsters. And if Meyer's team had been the least bit impressive against Vandy or SC, I would probably agree with him.

But they weren't.

So I don't.
 
#17
#17
You know, a coach is supposed ot politic for his team. Mack Brown took a lot of heat, but he did get his team into the Rose Bowl. It is part of the job to promote the program, even to the pollsters. And if Meyer's team had been the least bit impressive against Vandy or SC, I would probably agree with him.

But they weren't.

So I don't.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying Florida should be in that game. Based on what I've seen the last month, I cannot argue that they are #2 right now. I think they have a chance to do that, but right now, no.

What will be interesting is if USC loses and then Florida wins out. At that point, Florida would have a pretty good argument because Florida would have won its conference, whereas Michigan did not, Florida would have a significantly better SOS than Michigan, and Michigan would have lost its last game, whereas Florida would not have lost in two months.

Would be a solid argument for UF.
 
#18
#18
After Arkansas stomps a mudhole in the Gators , this crying sesion won't matter much anyway.
 
#20
#20
Would be a solid argument for UF.

That's an argument I can understand, if USC is out of the picture. Florida's loss is, IMO, very close in "quality" to Michigan's--a nail-biter at Auburn vs. a close game late at OSU--and they have more quality wins.
 
#21
#21
That's an argument I can understand, if USC is out of the picture. Florida's loss is, IMO, very close in "quality" to Michigan's--a nail-biter at Auburn vs. a close game late at OSU--and they have more quality wins.

Yup. Plus at that point, with Michigan not playing, the excitement of their game with OSU will have faded.

But, lots of football to be played and, as noted above, Florida is hardly sure to be in that position, anyway.

Ergo I don't worry about it.
 
#22
#22
After seeing Auburn get blasted by both Georgia and Arkansas, and with the differential being 9 points (the last 6 were cheap, I know) I don't think the voters are going to see Florida's loss as compararable to Michigan's.

I think the conference chamionship argument works better.
 
#23
#23
After seeing Auburn get blasted by both Georgia and Arkansas, and with the differential being 9 points (the last 6 were cheap, I know) I don't think the voters are going to see Florida's loss as compararable to Michigan's.

I think the conference chamionship argument works better.

Its my favorite. But again, to make it, Florida has to win this saturday and next. So we'll deal with it then, if its even an issue.
 
#24
#24
After seeing Auburn get blasted by both Georgia and Arkansas, and with the differential being 9 points (the last 6 were cheap, I know) I don't think the voters are going to see Florida's loss as compararable to Michigan's.

I think the conference chamionship argument works better.

The conference championship argument is a good one, but a squeaker of a loss at a 10 win Auburn team is no disgrace. I think if Michigan were traveling to Auburn tomorrow, they would be an underdog.

The point is, though, that it is a "good" loss, if there is such a thing. And Florida has wins against UT, LSU, and Arkansas (assuming of course, they win out.) Michigan only has one win of that quality against Wisconsin. None of that matters in the BCS, but it should.
 

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