UT admissions for Football Recruits.....

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A co-worker attempted to "splain" how there is something UT doesn't waive or adjust in Academics that all other SEC schools (even Vandy)) does for recruits??
Can someone give me more details.......something was lost in the translation :blink:
 
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Don't think any of us know exactly what is required for an athlete to be admitted into Tennessee. At one point it has been thought to be harder to get into Tennessee than most other power 5 schools but we really don't know details. Doubt the co-worker really knows specifics
 
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I just remember the Orlando Brown failure a few years ago. He couldn't get in here and went to OU. The rest is 1st Rnd Draft history. But who knows? I remember Phil was able to pull Travis Henry in b/c FSU couldn't get him in too.

Ive heard VN blame Jimmy Cheek for years about this. I hope we have a problem. Because we sure do suck lately.
 
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livefaith said:
I just remember the Orlando Brown failure a few years ago. He couldn't get in here and went to OU. The rest is 1st Rnd Draft history. But who knows? I remember Phil was able to pull Travis Henry in b/c FSU couldn't get him in too.

Ive heard VN blame Jimmy Cheek for years about this. I hope we have a problem. Because we sure do suck lately.
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Yea we have discussed Brown many times. We really don't know if he could have gotten in here or not. It's been said that when he Signed with OU they didn't expect him to make it. Maybe he pulled it out last minute and could have gotten in even here. We just don't know that. Only thing we know is we didn't take that chance
 
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BruinVol said:
Yea we have discussed Brown many times. We really don't know if he could have gotten in here or not. It's been said that when he Signed with OU they didn't expect him to make it. Maybe he pulled it out last minute and could have gotten in even here. We just don't know that. Only thing we know is we didn't take that chance
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I don't know for certain but I doubt it. I remember an article where his HS coach was interviewed, and apparently that year NSD was on a Wednesday and he said UT notified Brown on Sunday, 3 days prior to NSD, that he wasn't going o be able to get into UT academically, so the clock was well past the 11th hour when UT dropped Brown.
 
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Advol said:
A co-worker attempted to "splain" how there is something UT doesn't waive or adjust in Academics that all other SEC schools (even Vandy)) does for recruits??
Can someone give me more details.......something was lost in the translation :blink:
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I too remember reading something about this from a few years ago. I kinda think it was an additional math requirement, but I could be wrong.
 
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BruinVol said:
Yea we have discussed Brown many times. We really don't know if he could have gotten in here or not. It's been said that when he Signed with OU they didn't expect him to make it. Maybe he pulled it out last minute and could have gotten in even here. We just don't know that. Only thing we know is we didn't take that chance
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He was signed with Tenn and told 2 days before fall camp began, he immediately went to OU and was immediately accepted. HE MET NCAA and SEC Requirements. Tenn wouldn't let him in because of their floating ACT/GPA scale that Cheek installed that would not allow for any exceptions to his policy..

Let that sink in. As far as NCAA and SEC are concerned, he was good to go. He had met requirements they mandate.
 
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Nocleats said:
He was signed with Tenn and told 2 days before fall camp began, he immediately went to OU and was immediately accepted. HE MET NCAA and SEC Requirements. Tenn wouldn't let him in because of their floating ACT/GPA scale that Cheek installed that would not allow for any exceptions to his policy..

Let that sink in. As far as NCAA and SEC are concerned, he was good to go. He had met requirements they mandate.
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That is not true. He brought his sub-2.0 GPA up high enough to qualify with Summer work. Even OU thought he was going to JC
 
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We’re talking about the UT athletic department here, a ship of fools to say the least. So nothing would surprise me. I mean, they financially incentivised a athletic director to fail then were shocked when he failed, so this is no surprise.
 
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Nocleats said:
He was signed with Tenn and told 2 days before fall camp began, he immediately went to OU and was immediately accepted. HE MET NCAA and SEC Requirements. Tenn wouldn't let him in because of their floating ACT/GPA scale that Cheek installed that would not allow for any exceptions to his policy..

Let that sink in. As far as NCAA and SEC are concerned, he was good to go. He had met requirements they mandate.
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This is why many get confused. This just isn't factual
 
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fade route said:
We’re talking about the UT athletic department here, a ship of fools to say the least. So nothing would surprise me. I mean, they financially incentivised a athletic director to fail then were shocked when he failed, so this is no surprise.
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This...

Also, as much as I hate to say this, Brown was most likely better off at OU. Ask yourself how well Butch & Co would have developed him?
 
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Advol said:
A co-worker attempted to "splain" how there is something UT doesn't waive or adjust in Academics that all other SEC schools (even Vandy)) does for recruits??
Can someone give me more details.......something was lost in the translation :blink:
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This is true. Vandy started lowering standards for athletes under Franklin. We're the last ones standing.

I'm proud of it. Preserves some of the amateur nature of the sport. It also prevents some bad eggs from getting in.
 
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m1al said:
This...

Also, as much as I hate to say this, Brown was most likely better off at OU. Ask yourself how well Butch & Co would have developed him?
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^ This. That's why I'm so damn glad we hired Pruitt, his resume suggests he has great potential, not one of his former players or employers have said anything negative about him.
 
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m1al said:
This...

Also, as much as I hate to say this, Brown was most likely better off at OU. Ask yourself how well Butch & Co would have developed him?
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None, Butch didn’t believe in or know how to develop players once they were on campus, which is why I think a guy like Pruitt can hopefully come in and get more out of the players that are currently here and start winning sooner rather than later.
 
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Wii60 said:
This is true. Vandy started lowering standards for athletes under Franklin. We're the last ones standing.

I'm proud of it. Preserves some of the amateur nature of the sport. It also prevents some bad eggs from getting in.
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Don't care if they can read, write, or even tie their own shoelaces as long as they WIN.
 
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fade route said:
None, Butch didn’t believe in or know how to develop players once they were on campus, which is why I think a guy like Pruitt can hopefully come in and get more out of the players that are currently here and start winning sooner rather than later.
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I believe Pruitt will do just that. I'm not much of a prediction maker. I tend to take a wait and see attitude with most things, but this is the most excited I've been for Tennessee football in a long time....
 
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Wii60 said:
This is true. Vandy started lowering standards for athletes under Franklin. We're the last ones standing.

I'm proud of it. Preserves some of the amateur nature of the sport. It also prevents some bad eggs from getting in.
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Disagree. It’s bad policy.
 
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Lot of false info about Orlando Brown. He failed to get his grades up before signing. UT told him three days before NSD that he wasn't going to make it and he signed with Okla on NSD. He had a 1.7 GPA, didn't meet SEC core requirements and wasn't on track to get there.
 
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Nocleats said:
He was signed with Tenn and told 2 days before fall camp began, he immediately went to OU and was immediately accepted. HE MET NCAA and SEC Requirements. Tenn wouldn't let him in because of their floating ACT/GPA scale that Cheek installed that would not allow for any exceptions to his policy..

Let that sink in. As far as NCAA and SEC are concerned, he was good to go. He had met requirements they mandate.
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Brown did not sign with UT.
 
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Wii60 said:
This is true. Vandy started lowering standards for athletes under Franklin. We're the last ones standing.

I'm proud of it. Preserves some of the amateur nature of the sport. It also prevents some bad eggs from getting in.
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Terrible logic. You can't tell a "bad egg" from his test scores or grades. Some kids are at a disadvantage from the time they start school. Bad teachers, bad school system, bad home life, no study skills, etc. Some kids just aren't as gifted, but given a chance, they excel. Denying these kids an opportunity by having stricter standards than the NCAA requires is wrong and puts UT at a disadvantage.
 
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CommodoreCapital said:
Wrong!
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Care to explain? Under Watson Brown vandie became known as "Peabody" when the school allowed players to be Phys. Ed. majors there. Later, DiNardo insisted on exceptions for players, which he got. That has continued, though vandie's academics remain high. :ermm:
 
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