Vaccine or not?

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Vjcvette said:
Right now if you are unvaccinated you are 17 x's more likely to be hospitalized and 20x's more likely to die, 70% of hospitalized people with covid in Georgia are unvaccinated.
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Keep reading what they tell you and don't try to understand viruses or immunology. The vaccines are not stopping anything, at this point, and there is emerging data that suggests that repeated injection with the (wrong) mRNA may increase the rate of infection due to a "numbing" of the cell response.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
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you might want to look a little further into that.
For example I found out that.
-less than 1% remaining unvaccinated and having never had Covid
-there are currently 26% hospitalization for/because of Covid are unvaccinated. That means that 20% are responsible for 26% the cases. So natural immunity is roughly the same as vaccinated in this case.
-the rest are with Covid meaning they tested positive while in the hospital for something else.

Everyone needs to stop with the political spin on the numbers.
Just saying.
 
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Vjcvette said:
Right now if you are unvaccinated you are 17 x's more likely to be hospitalized and 20x's more likely to die, 70% of hospitalized people with covid in Georgia are unvaccinated.
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What happened to it being like 99% of the hospitalized were unvaxxed?
 
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LouderVol said:
What happened to it being like 99% of the hospitalized were unvaxxed?
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Variants.
That’s still true among the original strains
Still above 85% for delta.

It’s a tad ignorant to expect the various strains that evolved to be anticipated. This is more or less like the flu vaccine that completely missed this years prominent strains


This all or nothing approach both sides are implying is just silly
 
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ButchPlz said:
Batches of Moderna vaccines were pulled in Japan due to impurities.

Japan is also now requiring a signed informed consent form, which includes myocarditis warnings, before someone can receive the vaccine.
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Meanwhile, Knox County was jabbing kids in their car seats last weekend. I'm sure the parents were all thoroughly detailed on the myocarditis risk and reproductive cycle changes, as well as the fact that the vaccines are not FDA approved.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Variants.
That’s still true among the original strains
Still above 85% for delta.

It’s a tad ignorant to expect the various strains that evolved to be anticipated. This is more or less like the flu vaccine that completely missed this years prominent strains


This all or nothing approach both sides are implying is just silly
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I am not all or nothing. She is. Which is why I was pointing out the flaw in her statement.

Even though the CDC has finally backed off their all or nothing this poster hasnt.
 
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evillawyer said:
All you fired antivaxxers can gather together to form your own hedge fund focused on investments in snake oil, BS, and hyperbole.
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As long as it has less than 100 employees. Although I’m sure your “principals” wouldn’t prevent you from coming for those companies too right?
 
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mad4vols said:
That’s not true with white republicans, Seems education has a lot to do with whether we are vaccinated or not.
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Your weird hatred of the unvaccinated and how you accuse them of threatening the lives of others and filling up hospitals….

Do you have the same level of hatred for the media who demonize treatments and for the doctors who do not treat despite the FDA and numerous other sources saying the best outcomes (lower death rates and hospitalizations) are when treatment begins within 5 days of onset?
 
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We really need the SCOTUS to show some leadership and settle this. Supposedly their decision will come out by tomorrow
 
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Sea Ray said:
We really need the SCOTUS to show some leadership and settle this. Supposedly their decision will come out by tomorrow
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I don't know why it's taken them this long. Most likely it's a divided ruling and Roberts has been divining up some unheard of constitutional reasoning to uphold the mandates.
 
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hog88 said:
I don't know why it's taken them this long. Most likely it's a divided ruling and Roberts has been divining up some unheard of constitutional reasoning to uphold the mandates.
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The fact that they didn’t issue a stay while waiting on their ruling is a bad sign.
 
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