Vaccine or not?

[OrangeTsar]

Y
you remember this same court did some smacking down of trump too, right?

Bump stocks, and removal of ACA, right off the top of my head.

Which means absolutely nothing in relation to today’s story. They don’t cancel out like offsetting penalties in football you know.

 

[LouderVol]

Unhealthy Americans have been around for how long ?

The 70s or 80s if I had to guess, which is why our ICUs typically operate at 80% and the number one cause of death, even during a pandemic, is heart disease.

You cant look past the number one cause of death when examining the load our healthcare system faces. And that's not including any number of other health problems associated with being obese that clogs up our hospitals worse than our veins.

Covid has been number 3 for 2 years, and it gets this level of attention. Yet what has been number 1 for decades doesnt get a lick of attention.

 

[508mikey]

 

[LouderVol]

Which means absolutely nothing in relation to today’s story. They don’t cancel out like offsetting penalties in football you know.

But your argument was we need Trump because the court over ruled this president despite the same court over ruling Trump.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

That outfit are apparently scammers!

 

[508mikey]

That outfit are apparently scammers!

yes - in the article I posted above, mining ID info IMO --- people reporting to the BBB allege they did not receive test results, received incorrect test results or paid money for expedited results that were not delivered. They allege the company is "asking for a lot of personal information" and not responding to customers with questions about their test results, Johnson said.

 

[85SugarVol]

And I don’t have to worry about anything long term due to a vaccine with no long term safety data.

Me neither, and I'm vaccinated

@Vjcvette - Well that’s good to hear. Can you share the long term safety data on the Covid vaccines?

 

[kiddiedoc]

Lmao. Someone doesn’t understand the financial importance of Medicare and Medicaid in healthcare budgets. Especially in TN

Laugh all you want, but that is exactly what is happening with several subspecialists in our area. I have already been asked about sharing my office space.

The losers are the less-fortunate kids who will now be down several very, very good docs and nurses -- some of the brightest we have.

 

[VolinWayne]

Maddie de Garay, a 12-year-old participant in the 12-15 year old Pfizer trial was paralyzed less than 24 hours after her second shot. She’s now on her way to being a quadriplegic. In the trial, they reported her injury as “abdominal pain.”

The FDA, NIH, and CDC never investigated this case and they refuse to discuss it (since it shows not only clinical trial fraud but corruption at the very top of the FDA, NIH, and CDC)?

The press isn’t covering this at all because they want to keep America in the dark. The press doesn’t want America to know there was fraud in the Phase 3 trial and that the FDA and CDC are covering it up.

Mom details 12-year-old daughter's extreme reactions to COVID vaccine, says she’s now in wheelchair

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[kiddiedoc]

What are the chances of enough providers just refusing medicare/medicaid patients and opening up new practices?

See above, but this is exactly what is going to happen. Truth is, it will actually make some practices more lucrative, because Medicaid pays $#!+. For example: if I took over 50% TennCare, I wouldn't be able to take home a paycheck after expenses were paid.

 

[AshG]

@Vjcvette - Well that’s good to hear. Can you share the long term safety data on the Covid vaccines?

Can you reword your question to provide a specific time frame for "long term"? That way a comparison closer to apples-to-apples can be made with other mrna vaccine measuring.

 

[hog88]

See above, but this is exactly what is going to happen. Truth is, it will actually make some practices more lucrative, because Medicaid pays $#!+. For example: if I took over 50% TennCare, I wouldn't be able to take home a paycheck after expenses were paid.

Thanks. I have heard of some practices not taking on anymore MC/MC patients but not any taking none.

 

[AshG]

Maddie de Garay, a 12-year-old participant in the 12-15 year old Pfizer trial was paralyzed less than 24 hours after her second shot. She’s now on her way to being a quadriplegic. In the trial, they reported her injury as “abdominal pain.”

The FDA, NIH, and CDC never investigated this case and they refuse to discuss it (since it shows not only clinical trial fraud but corruption at the very top of the FDA, NIH, and CDC)?

The press isn’t covering this at all because they want to keep America in the dark. The press doesn’t want America to know there was fraud in the Phase 3 trial and that the FDA and CDC are covering it up.

Mom details 12-year-old daughter's extreme reactions to COVID vaccine, says she’s now in wheelchair

Help us spread the word about Maddie de Garay and the Trusted News Initiative

One of my friend's sons had neurological development issues appear suddenly following his MMR shot several years ago and has required assistive schooling as a result.

Are the government and the media failing to do their due diligence by not shutting down MMR distribution and not publicizing his case?

 

[508mikey]

See above, but this is exactly what is going to happen. Truth is, it will actually make some practices more lucrative, because Medicaid pays $#!+. For example: if I took over 50% TennCare, I wouldn't be able to take home a paycheck after expenses were paid.

Geez can things any more screwed up in this Country ?

 

[Vol8188]

My bile rises as I’m asked to move my dying cancer patient out of ICU to make room for an unvaccinated man with Covid | Ranjana Srivastava

A few hours later, the intensive care doctor calls.

She’s very unwell, he says before getting to the real point.

“I am asking you if we can make an early call to palliate and discharge her from ICU.”

“When?”

“Now.”

My disbelief must be open because it prompts the rueful explanation that a Covid patient needs an intensive care bed.

The pieces fall together instantly. With intensive care at capacity, I am being asked to move my patient to make room for another. “After all, your patient does have incurable cancer.”

My bile rises. And even as I know it’s a petty question, I can’t help asking: “Is the Covid patient vaccinated?”

“No,” he says wearily. “That’s why he is so sick.”

Surely you're not under the impression that they just stopped treating someone because someone else had covid are you?

And just to be clear we are upset that covid pt wasn't vaccinated, but I should not care if the cancer was caused by lifestyle choices (smoking for example) nor should I care if the covid pt was only in the ICU because no one treated them prior to hospitalization?

 

[AshG]

Geez can things any more screwed up in this Counrty ?

Don't ask that question. I have to carry a binder with me to all of my appointments where I live now because orders and referrals are done by paper only. Haven't had to do this in years.

 

[VolinWayne]

One of my friend's sons had neurological development issues appear suddenly following his MMR shot several years ago and has required assistive schooling as a result.

Are the government and the media failing to do their due diligence by not shutting down MMR distribution and not publicizing his case?

There are lots of examples of vaccine injuries but you won't find any of them reported by mainstream media.

 

[Vol8188]

One of my friend's sons had neurological development issues appear suddenly following his MMR shot several years ago and has required assistive schooling as a result.

Are the government and the media failing to do their due diligence by not shutting down MMR distribution and not publicizing his case?

If he had neurological development issues after Covid, they would publicize it, right?

 

[AshG]

There are lots of examples of vaccine injuries but you won't find any of them reported by mainstream media.

Probably because they're statistically insignificant, and humanity is a panicky, overactive species.

 

[Vol8188]

Probably because they're statistically insignificant, and humanity is a panicky, overactive species.

Kind of like child death's from Covid. But just to be clear, you are still for vaccinating people under 18 for Covid, correct?

 

[AshG]

Kind of like child death's from Covid. But just to be clear, you are still for vaccinating people under 18 for Covid, correct?

Utah, because aliens wear purple hats.

 

[VolinWayne]

Children’s Health Defense (CHD) and its chairman, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., on Jan. 23 will join organizations and individuals from around the U.S. in Washington, DC, for a “Defeat the Mandates” protest against government mandates.

The march, which will celebrate the principles of freedom and liberty upon which our nation was founded, comes in response to nearly two years of increasing governmental overreach in the form of mandates at local, state and federal levels.



Thousands to March in DC Jan. 23 to Defeat COVID Vaccine Mandates

 

[Vol8188]

Utah, because aliens wear purple hats.

I would just deflect too if I were you.

 

[AshG]

I would just deflect too if I were you.

I am for parents making informed decisions with their child's medical professional.

That's it. Read nothing else into it.

 

[Vol8188]

I am for parents making informed decisions with their child's medical professional.

That's it. Read nothing else into it.

Do we agree Covid is "statistically insignificant" in terms of it's affect on those under 18? That was my primary point. You disregard vaccine issues as "statistically insignificant", yet the 19 county region that includes Knox county TN has 0 death's under 18 from COVID (that's all variants, ever).

If we are still learning about the vaccine (study suggesting myocarditis in those under 40 was 4x higher for example was posted 12-25-21), it seems we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the concerns of parents as "statistically insignificant".