Verizon strike most important since the early days of labor

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Verizon is swimming in cash and demanding a retrograde return to Victorian England rules of labor.

This strike is the most important action probably in the world today.

If the strikers lose, we truly face a retrograde world, a descent into chaos that will make Hobbes look like he was pulling his punches. It will get ugly a lot faster than any of you believe.

Bourgeois Capitalism is at an end. It's death throes could shatter continents, I fear (actually, even before its death throes it was shattering continents). We can either put it down mercifully, gracefully, and with dignity, or we can let it lie convulsing on the gurney thrashing everything around it.

When I hear how great the private sector is at creating jobs (actually, data doesn't support it, but that's not usually a problem here), we need only look to this very case. Moreover, those "good jobs" created by the private sector are often with a big scoop of gov't largesse.

Bourgeois Capitalism is dying a painful death. If it were our dog, what would we do?
 
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so Verizon should be forced to keep a dying tech in place just for these people?

Mitchell said the average wage for a Hampton Roads technician, who repairs lines, is $79,500, plus benefits worth about $41,500.
That salary includes overtime, which employees can be forced to work, Rogers said. Before taxes, salaries range from about $36,400 for operators who provide directory assistance to $57,200 for technicians, he said.

if they don't want to do the work there are many who will take that kind of pay
 
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The bigger question is will my droid and tablet continue to work?
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screw unions and any who blindly apologize for them

Ah, child labor, $0.30 a day, six day 100 hour weeks, health and welfare to make the Black Death look sanitary...

Screwing unions is like screwing yourself. Hey, AFL-CIO are good Commie bashers too....
 
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screw unions and any who blindly apologize for them

if you're against unions then you're in favor of 6yo mining coal. Is that what you want MG because those are the only 2 options
 
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The almost incomprehesibly dumb went full blown when it said the data supports the idea that the private sector doesn't provide jobs.
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So I was on treadmill this morning listening to the local news. There was a segment on local grocery store employees going on strike.

The reporter interviews this employee who is saying the company is going to reduce his income by 50%. The reporter asks if he was sure, the kid says yes. The reporter said well we looked at the proposed new deal and it would only cost a family of four 24 dollars a week in salary, as they are being asked to contribute more toward health or retirement I believe. The kid then says well I dont care I am going on strike anyway. It was such a perfect representation of people having no idea how clueless they are.
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Ah, child labor, $0.30 a day, six day 100 hour weeks, health and welfare to make the Black Death look sanitary...

Screwing unions is like screwing yourself. Hey, AFL-CIO are good Commie bashers too....

ahh, company towns paying workers in company scrip that's useless anywhere else.

strikebreakers being murdered because being on strike doesn't feed your family.

union bosses who don't have to live by the same rules as the union members

SEIU thugs trespassing on private property and threatening a 14 year old

btw, gibbs, are your employees unionized?
 
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I just don't believe Gibbs believes this crap.

I can't.

I just can't tell myself a person really believes this stuff.
 
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ahh, company towns paying workers in company scrip that's useless anywhere else.

strikebreakers being murdered because being on strike doesn't feed your family.

union bosses who don't have to live by the same rules as the union members

SEIU thugs trespassing on private property and threatening a 14 year old

btw, gibbs, are your employees unionized?

The violence against unions is almost exclusively one way, calling the armed forces on the streets against posse comitatus, and of the deadliest nature.

Your interpretation ignores all of history.

:hi:
 
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The violence against unions is almost exclusively one way, calling the armed forces on the streets against posse comitatus, and of the deadliest nature.

Your interpretation ignores all of history.

:hi:

I don't know what history you're referring to, but union violence is very well documented. If you're this ignorant of history, perhaps you're the one who needs a lesson in what goes on in the real world.

btw, I noticed you dodged my question about whether or not your employees are unionized.
 
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I just don't believe Gibbs believes this crap.

I can't.

I just can't tell myself a person really believes this stuff.

NEO,

The vast majority of the world believes these things. In fact, even the American bourgeoisie know these things (though they act completely differently, naturally).

In fact, the only people in the world who believes what pj et al on this board believe is the American managerial class, in a real triumph of mass discipline and behavior control. It's unlikely even flunkies running US proxy governments believe otherwise.
 
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I don't know what history you're referring to, but union violence is very well documented. If you're this ignorant of history, perhaps you're the one who needs a lesson in what goes on in the real world.

btw, I noticed you dodged my question about whether or not your employees are unionized.

Union violence represents, maybe, 0.5% of violence directed at unions. Hence, although it exists in the historic record, you are essentially ignoring history. Especially when we consider deadly violence.
 
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Which is why the world is trying its hardest to transition away from the silliness you espouse? It's because they all know that fundamentally you're right.
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