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chatt-townVOL said:
What's it about? Is it new?
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It's a reality news show (for lack of a better description).

I didn't watch the first episode but one will be Dennis Rodman's trip to North Korea. I don't know if that's the one that aired or not.
 
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It's more of a journalism type thing. First one looked at political assassinations in the phillipines and child suicidie bombers in Afghanistan.
 
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Watched the first 3 episodes the other day. It's eye opening. Those guys have some huge balls to go into the situations they cover.

The gun culture in the Philippines makes the US look like Canada. Seeing the underground gun smiths make them out scrap metal was crazy. I wouldn't have gotten within a 100 yards of that politician on his way to file his reelection paper work.
 
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will check it out once I've finished Generation Kill
 
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I saw the episode about the school where the teachers pack heat and they teach students how to defeat an attacker.

Overall I thought the whole thing was ridiculous. Selective editing and really a very outlier example (on both sides of the issue) to address the issue of protecting schools. It may be fun to watch but calling this journalism is a stretch.
 
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volinbham said:
I saw the episode about the school where the teachers pack heat and they teach students how to defeat an attacker.

Overall I thought the whole thing was ridiculous. Selective editing and really a very outlier example (on both sides of the issue) to address the issue of protecting schools. It may be fun to watch but calling this journalism is a stretch.
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Really? I thought it was a pretty unbiased view of them. I found it very interesting that he has been teaching them for years to be prepared. I didn't think they tried to make him look crazy or anything.

I do think the segments are too short to give a complete picture of any story though. It should really be at least 30 min on one subject.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Really? I thought it was a pretty unbiased view of them. I found it very interesting that he has been teaching them for years to be prepared. I didn't think they tried to make him look crazy or anything.

I do think the segments are too short to give a complete picture of any story though. It should really be at least 30 min on one subject.
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The coverage of the school itself was relatively even (though I thought some of the footage showed the woman as incompetent with a firearm).

What I thought was ridiculous was that it was positioned to represent one side of the debate on should schools have armed protection. Clearly no one is suggesting that schools go to the extreme that this one, private school is doing.

They then had "experts" evaluate this school and no surprise those experts thought they were over the top.

If it was presented simply as what one school is doing then it would be fine. As it was presented (one side's solution for school protection) it was not informative.

It was akin to showing a hardcore free market, laissez fare capitalist school as what is taught in business school.
 
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watched the first two last night, was surprised by some of the graphic footage from the aftermath of suicide bombers. gruesome stuff.

these guys have huge nutz to do some of these stories
 
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SWIL said:
watched the first two last night, was surprised by some of the graphic footage from the aftermath of suicide bombers. gruesome stuff.

these guys have huge nutz to do some of these stories
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The decappitad head and other body parts lying around aren't something you see on network news.
 
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volinbham said:
The coverage of the school itself was relatively even (though I thought some of the footage showed the woman as incompetent with a firearm).

What I thought was ridiculous was that it was positioned to represent one side of the debate on should schools have armed protection. Clearly no one is suggesting that schools go to the extreme that this one, private school is doing.

They then had "experts" evaluate this school and no surprise those experts thought they were over the top.

If it was presented simply as what one school is doing then it would be fine. As it was presented (one side's solution for school protection) it was not informative.

It was akin to showing a hardcore free market, laissez fare capitalist school as what is taught in business school.
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You have some fair points

Weren't the "experts" people that worked in the New Mexico Depr of Ed? They may not have been but I thought there was some correlatoin to their opinion.

FTR I watched the first 3 eps late at night so some details might have escaped me.
 
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