Vino done with TdF

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BigPapaVol

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Don't know if there are any Tour de France fans out there, but looks like Vino's superhuman effort in Saturday's time trial was drug aided. The Astana team has apparently left the tour upon being informed of the failed test.

The sport's keynote event is getting killed by the doping issue.
 
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Are there any sports left that people dont feel the need to use drugs to aid their career?
 
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Are there any sports left that people dont feel the need to use drugs to aid their career?
Gary Player's comments notwithstanding, I can't see a golf pro benefitting from performance enhancing drugs (except for downers for a guy like Woody Austin)
 
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This is really disappointing. I figured it was inevitable that he'd win at least one Tour. He can grind up the climbs with the best of them, and yet is enough of a sprinter that he won on the Champs-Élysées a couple of years ago. And he's never had a particularly great team situation to help him along with any of it.

This sucks.
 
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Doesn't make sense. How can athletes in a sport so completely hounded by doping testing and scrutiny, still be doing it? Something is screwy about all this...
 
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Doesn't make sense. How can athletes in a sport so completely hounded by doping testing and scrutiny, still be doing it? Something is screwy about all this...

Do you have a conspiracy theory for us, OWH?? :p
 
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And how can you go out and win a stage when you know you've done something for which they can test? You KNOW they test all the stage winners after every single stage; as soon as you ride across that line first, you're guaranteed of peeing in the cup immediately afterwards. I don't understand it.
 
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Doesn't make sense. How can athletes in a sport so completely hounded by doping testing and scrutiny, still be doing it? Something is screwy about all this...
they've beaten the system for years, so they continue to believe that technology of the policing agencies is behind their own doping technology.
 
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As I understand it, it's when someone boosts their red blood cell count to dangerous levels to acquire more oxygen.

That is correct. Sometimes it is done with a drug, such as EPO, that boosts red blood cell count, and sometimes it is done by injecting red blood cells straight into the body. It is very hard to detect, as athletes such as cyclists often have very high RBC counts, anyway.

More red blood cells = more oxygen to the muscles = better, longer lasting muscle performance. It is a huge advantage for sport like cycling.
 
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That is correct. Sometimes it is done with a drug, such as EPO, that boosts red blood cell count, and sometimes it is done by injecting red blood cells straight into the body. It is very hard to detect, as athletes such as cyclists often have very high RBC counts, anyway.

More red blood cells = more oxygen to the muscles = better, longer lasting muscle performance. It is a huge advantage for sport like cycling.
Unfortunately, EPO thickens the blood and several riders have died from cardiac arrest because their heart couldn't very well handle it.
 
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Rasmussen now gone. Looks like Disco could win another TdF, or place 2 guys on the podium.

Regardless of how it works out, this winner is going in the books with an asterisk, just like last years winner.

This makes the NBAs troubles look very mild.
 

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