VN Official Health Care-Insurance Idea Thread discussion....

#2
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So when a doctor cuts off the wrong leg, the patient shouldn't be able to sue for damages?

Some people take Healthcare for granted and just don't care where they go. If we have a ratings system, it would make the doctors more accountable and give the patients reviews to read and make a better choice on a doctor. As far as if that actually happens, that would be something to amend to the idea, so give an option if that happens.
 
#3
#3
A la carte pricing- as a single male non-smoker, I shouldn't have to pay for maternity services, well-baby care, smoking cessation treatment, and so on. If you can customize a package for car insurance, you should be able to do the same for your medical insurance.

Flexible spending accounts - deal with doctors on a cash basis. The funds in these accounts should never expire and can be withdrawn, with a penalty, for non-medical use.

in addition to malpractice reform, institute a "loser-pays" system

extend the period of time pharmaceutical companies hold on to exclusive patents. one reason some medications are so expensive now is because the companies have to recoup the expense of research and development.

Can you kinda expound on what the bolded means?? I think I know, I just want to make sure.
 
#4
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Some people take Healthcare for granted and just don't care where they go. If we have a ratings system, it would make the doctors more accountable and give the patients reviews to read and make a better choice on a doctor. As far as if that actually happens, that would be something to amend to the idea, so give an option if that happens.

Have you had any kind of surgery, lately? People definitely care where they go, and getting the surgeon you want can be quite difficult sometimes, and the more specialized the procedure the harder it is.
 
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Here's an idea

why don't we lock the rep/dems in a room and say "we pay your salaries to do a job, and that job is to do whats best for the American citizens. The health care system isn't currently working because people with insurance are getting screwed and people without insurance need health insurance
so....
Republicans stop saying NO to everything and do your frikkin job
and
Democrats stop being so hard headed and be more willing to compromise.

I'm beginning to wonder if i should just vote independent. The Bush administration was filled with lies,fear tactics, horrible decisions.. many many many horrible decisions, and a bunch of politicians that got rich from haliburton, and the manipulation of the housing industry. AND this administration wants to spend, spend, spend, and change, change, change no matter if the people want it or not.

The government for the last decade is literally driving me :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

Our founding fathers would be disappointing if they could saw the crap we've had to put up with the last 10yrs thats for sure
 
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#6
#6
Here's an idea

why don't we lock the rep/dems in a room and say "we pay your salaries to do a job, and that job is to do whats best for the American citizens. The health care system isn't currently working because people with insurance are getting screwed and people without insurance need health insurance
so....
Republicans stop saying NO to everything and do your frikkin job
and
Democrats stop being so hard headed and be more willing to compromise.

I'm beginning to wonder if i should just vote independent. The Bush administration was filled with lies,fear tactics, horrible decisions.. many many many horrible decisions, and a bunch of politicians that got rich from haliburton, and the manipulation of the housing industry. AND this administration wants to spend, spend, spend, and change, change, change no matter if the people want it or not.

The government for the last decade is literally driving me :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

Our founding fathers would be disappointing if they could saw the crap we've had to put up with the last 10yrs thats for sure

Solid post.

Our founding fathers did not see government as the answer to problems, they realized that the government would more than likely end up being the problem.
 
#7
#7
Here's an idea

why don't we lock the rep/dems in a room and say "we pay your salaries to do a job, and that job is to do whats best for the American citizens. The health care system isn't currently working because people with insurance are getting screwed and people without insurance need health insurance
so....
Republicans stop saying NO to everything and do your frikkin job
and
Democrats stop being so hard headed and be more willing to compromise.

I'm beginning to wonder if i should just vote independent. The Bush administration was filled with lies,fear tactics, horrible decisions.. many many many horrible decisions, and a bunch of politicians that got rich from haliburton, and the manipulation of the housing industry. AND this administration wants to spend, spend, spend, and change, change, change no matter if the people want it or not.

The government for the last decade is literally driving me :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

Our founding fathers would be disappointing if they could saw the crap we've had to put up with the last 10yrs thats for sure

More like 50+ years for me except for a breath of fresh air during the Reagan years but even then he was under continual character assassination attacks from the democrats, the party I will never vote for again no matter what.

Since Kennedy was assassinated for issueing silver certificates I have just written in candidates, usually Pat Paulsen and Foster Brooks but when Carter and Reagan were running I wrote in Mickey and Mighty Mouse.

I had so many people writing in Mickey Mouse that they changed the law so that precincts only reported votes of those who had qualified to be on the ticket, according to my local newspaper editor.

The following are bon mots from Winston Churchill whose bust was uncermoneously removed from the oval office upon obambi's first day as president.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy."

"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries."

(except that the socialist party members live in luxury above the level of the average comrade riff raffs.)gs

"We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle."

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

"Some see private enterprise as a predatory target to be shot, others as a cow to be milked, but few are those who see it as a sturdy horse pulling the wagon."
 
#8
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1) Public option.

or

2) Combined approach of a) Put kids on private health insurance of parents up to age 20; Between 20 and 40 allow purchase of insurance with high deductibles, but promotes wellness and checkups; c) Expand Medicare to Age 40, with higher FICA to pay for it.
Why the hell are you so hellbent on the government stepping in and making health care reek of failure like they have with SS, Medicare, Education, and Welfare?? The federal government's track record sucks with things like this LG. I don't understand it, it's like you want them in your life.
 

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