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OrangeTsar said:
We seem to operating under diametrically opposed interpretations of US History. You allude to a belief that I need to study my country’s history, probably not knowing my own personal experience.
I actually lived through the supposed „switch“ of the parties to which you allude and I can assure you based on lived experience that THAT is one of the myths of which you speak. The only thing that changed was that the Democrats around 1968 made a conscious decision to go after the African American vote in a blatantly cynical power play that had nothing to do with the actual welfare of African Americans. Diabolically, it actually helped the Democrats to perversely keep them in poverty and dependence on government largesse to ensure their continued loyalty.
The Republicans have remained constant (at least verbally) in their efforts to help minorities help themselves by supporting economic growth in those communities instead of relying on government handouts that merely maintain and make permanent the misery and despair of the very people they purportedly wish to help.
But something tells me you probably totally reject this interpretation of events; so neither of us is likely to convince the other.
It does encourage me that both of us seem to think NEITHER party is really helping at the moment; regardless of their stated intentions.
Unfortunately the current rancor between the parties makes it ever less likely that anything will improve anytime soon.
I still operate under the stated belief of MLK Jr that we have to start judging people by character instead of by the color of their skin.
Sadly Critical Race Theory has made that belief itself apparently now to be considered racist. I think we are actually going backwards now and undoing any gains we made during the civil rights movement. Bot parties appear to have come to the realization that division is more profitable to their donations and to motivating their voters than any actual reconciliation. This is yet another reason I believe that we need a spiritual solution in this nation much more than a political one.
Politics divides. Christ unites and teaches true empathy.
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Bet I'me older than you. Lived in Tennessee. Saw first hand the alluding you ridicule. Lived it. Dixiecrats were A-holes. Repubs were fine for a while, and uh, I actually liked Ike. But my experiences taught me to trust neither party. So yeah, we interpret and live a different US History. So it is, so it shall be. And as someone admonished me earlier, the thread is a MEME thread, so I'm a Will Rogersist:
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The more you read and observe about this Politics thing, the more you've got to admit that each party is worse than the other.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Conservatives aren't conservative. They're privileged fascists pretending to be Christians and benevolent people. Black conservatives are groveling puppets, as Malcom X described. Kind of like the Native American scouts of yore, who helped hunt down and kill or confine their people to ghettos (Indian reservations).
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WoodsmanVol said:
Bet I'me older than you. Lived in Tennessee. Saw first hand the alluding you ridicule. Lived it. Dixiecrats were A-holes. Repubs were fine for a while, and uh, I actually liked Ike. But my experiences taught me to trust neither party. So yeah, we interpret and live a different US History. So it is, so it shall be. And as someone admonished me earlier, the thread is a MEME thread, so I'm a Will Rogersist:
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The more you read and observe about this Politics thing, the more you've got to admit that each party is worse than the other.
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Then I shall attempt to do the same and add a a meme I feel you will not find altogether disagrable 😄
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WoodsmanVol said:
Bet I'me older than you. Lived in Tennessee. Saw first hand the alluding you ridicule. Lived it. Dixiecrats were A-holes. Repubs were fine for a while, and uh, I actually liked Ike. But my experiences taught me to trust neither party. So yeah, we interpret and live a different US History. So it is, so it shall be. And as someone admonished me earlier, the thread is a MEME thread, so I'm a Will Rogersist:
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The more you read and observe about this Politics thing, the more you've got to admit that each party is worse than the other.
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I will add that my personal experience of what I saw growing up as an evangelical in the 1970s was a slow but irreversible slide in my church from probably 80/20% Democrat/Republican to about 10/90% over a decade. But at least what I heard wasn’t about race relations; it was about abortion after Roe v Wade. Lifelong Democrat Christians, some of them confirmed economic liberals from the Great Depression Years who had voted straight blue since FDR started saying they couldn’t support a party that endorsed the killing of babies. Now of course I have no way of knowing that unspoken racism wasn’t part of it as well; all I know is what I heard.
Not being a minority I have no way of knowing how they saw it changing; but the experience I had was of a cultural tectonic shift. At the beginning of the change most of my fellow whites identified with the Democrat party because they saw the Dems as supporters of the little guy against the greedy country club wealthy Republicans. By the early 90’s it became that the Republicans were the party of Godly values while the Democrats were the party of immorality and the Devil. That is where we are at today with the addition that Trump has added populist rhetoric to the mix and the Southern white conservative now sees the Democrats as the party of the elites while Trump is the man for the little guy. It is 180 degrees opposite of what it was in the early 70s. I am. It claiming that the impression is accurate or not; it is just the impression I constantly hear. The almost absolute change in voting by the white blue collar workers of America from Dem to Republican does seem to show that this impression is widespread.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
I will add that my personal experience of what I saw growing up as an evangelical in the 1970s was a slow but irreversible slide in my church from probably 80/20% Democrat/Republican to about 10/90% over a decade. But at least what I heard wasn’t about race relations; it was about abortion after Roe v Wade. Lifelong Democrat Christians, some of them confirmed economic liberals from the Great Depression Years who had voted straight blue since FDR started saying they couldn’t support a party that endorsed the killing of babies. Now of course I have no way of knowing that unspoken racism wasn’t part of it as well; all I know is what I heard.
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All I know is what I saw, read in unbiased history books state board of education refused to be used in school curriculums, and was told to my face growing up in Tennessee.

And Orange Tsar, your snake pics fit. I remain a Will Rogersitist so, yes, sir, that's a fact:
If America ever passes out as a great nation, we ought to put on our tombstone: America died from a delusion she had Moral Leadership.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
The Southern Democrats of yesteryear, had a long history of racism and bigotry. In due time, and out of spite, went over to and took over the Republican Party after the Civil Rights and other equal rights were affirmed into law. In essence, Republicans morphed into Southern Democrats ideology speaking. And claimed to be conservatives. Republicans were once really the party of the people. Now, they are mostly bigots, hatemongers, racists, and try to hide it under the false mask of MAGA. Which means to revert America back to its old White privilege only and Jim Crowism. Learn your country's history instead of its myths. As far as African-Americans, neither party is to be trusted. Current Republicans are explicit in the bias and hypocrisy, Democrats speak with a forked tongue, they mouth one thing, do another or nothing at all. Black conservatives, therefore, are exactly what Malcom X said they are. Making them very much like the Native American scouts of the past, who helped kill and subjugate their own people. What's sad is it is the SAD truth.
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WoodsmanVol said:
Take note, most of the states below that legalize robbery by cops are Republican states.
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Kids aren't spared either. Texas police shut down little girls’ lemonade stand
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Uhhh, that has nothing whatsoever to do with my meme. It was totally about the regulatory state and how the simplest transactions involve multiple government agencies.
I have absolutely no sympathy for the government taking property absent due process and a criminal conviction if that is your concern.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Take note, most of the states below that legalize robbery by cops are Republican states.
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Kids aren't spared either. Texas police shut down little girls’ lemonade stand
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and I would note that the breakdown of Republican/Democrat states in your map is about 50/50. I believe you are probably focusing on California vs Texas; the two most populous states in the union which are indeed Blue and Red respectively. But while Florida is also a large Republican state; New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois are all solidly Democrat. The problem you are quite justifiably alarmed by is yet another of those where both parties are quite equally to blame for acting horribly.
 
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Sin City Vol said:
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Now do that paragon of moral virtue; Bill Clinton. Let’s face it; both parties have thoroughly disreputable members.
Of course that doesn’t in any way indicate how good of a President they would make. The most morally upstanding President of my lifetime was Jimmy Carter who made a terrible leader. And the aforementioned Bill Clinton who had such a messy personal life; was probably the best Democrat President I have ever encountered.
So you make a good point but one that has no bearing on the question at hand.
Steadfast “family man” JFK would also make a fascinating addition to this discussion as well 😂
 
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