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It's obvious that Coach Fulmer is depressed about this game. One quite hostile caller was disconnected because he was FURIOUS at CPF. One guy had the nerve to get on there and tell the "fay-uns" to get off Randy Sanders' back because he was "doing the best he can". Several questions that have been asked on here were addressed, ie; Why does CPF clap on the sidelines after busted plays, why wasn't the fumble recovery reviewed, etc.

Things are not very pleasant in the world of Tennessee football.

One guy in NAshville said "Maybe the Vols can come join us down here for the Music City Bowl." Bob Kesling didn't act too thrilled.
 
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LIO being in Lexington, I don't get to here Volcalls that often, but happened to be able to get it tonight on my way home from work.

Is this typical? I heard a three callers in a span of 10 minutes really pop off to him about how displeased they were with the offense.

Of course he towed the party line, but is this more heat than he is used to receiving?

 
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I can't listen to those coach's call in shows. They are the same everywhere after a loss.
 
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I posted this on another topic, but it fits here also.

I listened to the entire show and I have to give CPF credit for staying on and fielding questions longer than any previous show. With that said, I think I discovered the major problem with our coaching strategy.

One caller asked a question about running a sweep out of a spread formation. The coach went into a long dissertation based on if the defense ran a stunt, they might get back-side containment on the play; he concluded by comparing this to chess strategy. Now, did I miss something here or did our coach stop us before we even ran the play? In chess, you make a move, your opponent makes a move; then you try to counter your opponent.

The problem is that we never make a bold move because we are scared of what our opponent “might” do.
How about running the play; if they do contain the play, show the same formation again, but with the following changes:
1) run the 3 back into the hole that the def. tackle vacated on the previous play
2) give the offensive guard blocking “progressions”
a. if the tackle stays, block him
b. if the def. tackle stunts, block the first :furious3: he finds downfield


I guess our coaches are not that aggressive. It is a good damn thing they were not in the Marine Corps. I would like to hear CPF explain the fact that he couldn’t assault a gun position because our muzzle flashes will give away our positions and the enemy might mortar us. I know this analogy is a stretch, but I think is makes my point.
WE NEED LESS THINKING AND A BUNCH MORE HITTING!
 
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Originally posted by T_man_J@Oct 10, 2005 10:25 PM
I posted this on another topic,  but it fits here also.

The problem is that we never make a bold move because we are scared of what our opponent “might” do.
How about running the play; if they do contain the play, show the same formation again, but with the following changes:
1) run the 3 back into the hole that the def. tackle vacated on the previous play
2) give the offensive guard blocking “progressions”
  a. if the tackle stays, block him
   b. if the def. tackle stunts, block the first :furious3: he finds downfield


I guess our coaches are not that aggressive. It is a good damn thing they were not in the Marine Corps. I would like to hear CPF explain the fact that he couldn’t assault a gun position because our muzzle flashes will give away our positions and the enemy might mortar us. I know this analogy is a stretch, but I think is makes my point.
WE NEED LESS THINKING AND A BUNCH MORE HITTING!
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this is another good post TJ. one of the big problems with our offense is the defense knows we dont do anything different and they play very aggresively and without fear of getting burned. Whats the chances of us throwing in a play they havent already studied on film? pretty slim...

it seems whenever we play a team their defense is all over the place. we try to run, they got 8 men in the blocks. we try to pass they got a blitz or they got extra db's in. its because we are so predictable. we never have a 3rd and short. So 3rd down, is always a passing down and here comes their mustang package or a blitz package.

Who would have thought a tennessee team would play a team with 8 men in the block and not be able to complete a pass on a consistent basis???
 
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This was actually a point made in the 7 o'clock show, but I disagree:

The running game was taking a shot, and the show was dissing Riggs, after commenting on his preseason "1500 yards" expectations. Truth is, that without a deep threat you will not be successful on the ground against the talent on defense in the SEC. When you look around this season, it seems that the SEC continues to thrive on this "Defense wins Championships" mentality. Look at what Alabama did to UF. Or Georgia did to us.

I just have trouble faulting one particular player who shows flashes of brilliance but is put in the impossible position of running against a front-heavy, big, fast defense who knows you aren't going to stretch the field. Gerald is explosive and seems to get stronger as the game goes on (see last year's SECCG or the LSU game). Finding fault in a guy who has been placed in a no-win situation is absurd.
 
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I agree Doc. Riggs has been getting a whole lot of his yards on his own this year. To blame any of the offensive problems on him is completely ridiculous.
 
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I agree that its hard to run without a downfield passing threat. Check out Oklahoma. Where's Adrian Peterson this year?

Also, defense could win championships but it takes good special teams too.
 
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You know what puzzles me?

We had our backs to the wall Saturday.

We couldn't buy real estate on Shields Watkins field against GA if we had been passing out Cnotes.

So, do we run a reverse? I didn't see one.

Did we try a half-back pass? You kiddin' me?

When you're back's against the wall, what would it have hurt to do something unexpected?

It might fail. Might my hinny, we had a lot of stuff that DID fail.

I feel sorry for our Defense.
 
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Originally posted by OldVol@Oct 10, 2005 11:40 PM
You know what puzzles me?

We had our backs to the wall Saturday.

We couldn't buy real estate on Shields Watkins field against GA if we had been passing out Cnotes.

So, do we run a reverse? I didn't see one.

Did we try a half-back pass? You kiddin' me?

When you're back's against the wall, what would it have hurt to do something unexpected?

It might fail. Might my hinny, we had a lot of stuff that DID fail.

I feel sorry for our Defense.
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I mentioned that yesterday. A fake punt early, or a flea flicker. Anything to give the team and the crowd a boost.
 
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I got to hear some of it and let's face it Kesling has no sense of humor. Trust me what you heard is MINOR compared to the talk shows here in K-town today. One caller on sheepcalls hit it on the head though. Why does it take us sooooooooooo long to get a play off? How about we just line up and take it down their throats. Too many of our QBs post Manning feel the need to either make checks or fake checks before running the play. And after we do snap the ball, our line moves too slow on traps and sweeps. Two words: more agressiveness.
 
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That's true, it does take forever and ever to run a play. Someone on here asked if it seems like UT checks more than other schools and I would have to say yes. Between the commercial breaks and getting plays off, it just feels like it's in slow motion.
 
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I sat next to a GA fan at the game (but he was cool). When we decided to stroll out the donor of the week on to the field between possessions, he laughed. I asked "You mean you don't do that at GA?" he said "No". How embarrassing. Thanks Hamilton.
 
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Anybody ever listen to Jimmy H. in the afternoons? I remember when we were having problems a couple years ago he popped off that if PF didn't make come changes he was going to have problems. He said that Fulmer had stated that after the 98 season that they should have another NC within 5 years. So he goes on about the problems PF had and that the team hadn't met expectations. Anyway Jimmy was called out about this and of course he dosen't remember saying it! Sometimes I think those Sports Talk guys are paid by UT. Pat Ryan is the only guy who will call a spade a spade!
 
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good point vol 4 life about adrian peterson. without a passing attack your lucky to hear about him unless he scores.
 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 10, 2005 7:21 PM
LIO being in Lexington, I don't get to here Volcalls that often, but happened to be able to get it tonight on my way home from work. 

Is this typical? I heard a three callers in a span of 10 minutes really pop off to him about how displeased they were with the offense. 

Of course he towed the party line, but is this more heat than he is used to receiving?
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Yes, Lex, it's unusual. The show is represented as an open discussion, but if they allow callers to put too much heat on PF or on the program, the university might not feel obliged to make ANYBODY from the staff available. That's why they screen the callers.

They usually have a lot more "I say we stand behind the coaches 110%" types.
 
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Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 10, 2005 9:46 PM
I agree Doc.  Riggs has been getting a whole lot of his yards on his own this year.  To blame any of the offensive problems on him is completely ridiculous.
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That is because our OL is so overweight they cannot block, create proper angles and get out in front on pulling plays and traps. Bruce Wilkerson,Bubba Miller and Trey Teague were all quoted saying what I just typed. Maybe the OL is on the Fulmer diet. hahaha
 

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