Vols' Computer Ratings (3.13.22): #8 in Sagarin, #5 in Massey, #8 in NET, #5 in BPI

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DiderotsGhost

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With the win over Kentucky, we moved up in several rankings.

#8 Sagarin
#1 Sagarin / Recent Score
#5 Massey
#5 BPI
#8 NET

Unfortunately, the NCAA relies on the NET rankings, which is the most flawed of the bunch and seems to produce a few wacky results. It's had Houston as the #3 team in the country for a long time, and while Houston is being underrated a bit, I don't see how anyone could put them at #3.

Overall, I feel like we're solidly a #2 seed right now, but I'm not sure if the selection committee will recognize it or not. We're 10-7 against Quad 1 teams and we played much better in the 2nd half of the season than the 1st. With the win over Kentucky yesterday, we look like the #1 SEC team regardless of the outcome today. And I don't see how they could put 8 other teams above us, particularly with Duke losing in a blowout to Virginia Tech yesterday. Of the 7 teams above us in NET, we should still be ahead of Houston, and Kentucky with the win yesterday. Which should make us the #6 overall seed at a minimum.

For now, these "bracketology experts" (who are not actually experts) think we're a 3. CBS still has us as a 3 and Lunardi at ESPN still has Auburn, Kentucky, and Duke above us at the 2 line. (Seriously, how could anyone have us below Duke at this point?) We'll see if the selection committee agrees soon.
 
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Yes, but the “experts” say Auburn and Kentucky should be ahead of us because…well…..because. You know I’m not sure why but Tennessee is obviously a #3 seed!

In all seriousness, we should be a 2 and I hope the committee is objective and rewards that.
 
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They’ll over-seed Duke. They just will. That said, Sankey will not let them step on the neck of a tourney champ that beat three top twenty teams in the last three weeks. Normally, I’d say— Lose today, and we’ll settle at the three, even though we’ve earned a two. Win, and I think we are a two. The tangle here is that 95% of the bracket will be done by lunch. That does not serve us. Between the Houston/Memphis game and our game, they’ll have to place some early bets to get everything to fit. I might be superstitious or traumatized, but I think they’ll put two blue teams at the two if they have to decide before we play. If they follow their promises of “holding contingencies” then they will have a mess to sort after those two games.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
They’ll over-seed Duke. They just will. .
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That's my concern. Duke is not a 2 seed, but it feels like everyone is riding the 'Coach K can win a national title in his final season' wave right now and overlooking Duke's weak late-season performance. Not saying Duke isn't a contender, but based on how they've played, they should be a 3 at best. Both Kentucky and Auburn should be above them IMO.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
They’ll over-seed Duke. They just will. That said, Sankey will not let them step on the neck of a tourney champ that beat three top twenty teams in the last three weeks. Normally, I’d say— Lose today, and we’ll settle at the three, even though we’ve earned a two. Win, and I think we are a two. The tangle here is that 95% of the bracket will be done by lunch. That does not serve us. Between the Houston/Memphis game and our game, they’ll have to place some early bets to get everything to fit. I might be superstitious or traumatized, but I think they’ll put two blue teams at the two if they have to decide before we play. If they follow their promises of “holding contingencies” then they will have a mess to sort after those two games.
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It might serve us, since we’re expected to win it.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
That's my concern. Duke is not a 2 seed, but it feels like everyone is riding the 'Coach K can win a national title in his final season' wave right now and overlooking Duke's weak late-season performance. Not saying Duke isn't a contender, but based on how they've played, they should be a 3 at best. Both Kentucky and Auburn should be above them IMO.
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They’re not that good right now.
 
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GregAmsler said:
It might serve us, since we’re expected to win it.
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If we didn’t have two other top ten SEC teams, I’d agree. I fear we’ll see the selection committee explain away conference tournaments as anomalies to keep Duke and KY high. They’ve done that before. It’s really tough given the fact that Nova and Purdue won. There will not be a fair bracket this year. I can see White and Sankey fighting for geography and the highest 3 if the 2 feels unattainable. Granted, the committee is unbiased and will not listen to outside influence at all… Right.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
If we didn’t have two other top ten SEC teams, I’d agree. I fear we’ll see the selection committee explain away conference tournaments as anomalies to keep Duke and KY high. They’ve done that before. It’s really tough given the fact that Nova and Purdue won. There will not be a fair bracket this year. I can see White and Sankey fighting for geography and the highest 3 if the 2 feels unattainable. Granted, the committee is unbiased and will not listen to outside influence at all… Right.
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I’ll be fine with whatever we draw. There isn’t a team out there that I look at and think, “I just can’t see Tennessee beating them.” Bring ‘em on.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
If we didn’t have two other top ten SEC teams, I’d agree. I fear we’ll see the selection committee explain away conference tournaments as anomalies to keep Duke and KY high. They’ve done that before. It’s really tough given the fact that Nova and Purdue won. There will not be a fair bracket this year. I can see White and Sankey fighting for geography and the highest 3 if the 2 feels unattainable. Granted, the committee is unbiased and will not listen to outside influence at all… Right.
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Yeah but we finished ahead of UK in the regular season too. There’s zero justification for UK being seeded over us.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
That's my concern. Duke is not a 2 seed, but it feels like everyone is riding the 'Coach K can win a national title in his final season' wave right now and overlooking Duke's weak late-season performance. Not saying Duke isn't a contender, but based on how they've played, they should be a 3 at best. Both Kentucky and Auburn should be above them IMO.
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They’re not giving the committee a whole lot to go out on a limb for. They’re just not very impressive. I could see them making them a 3 and giving them their preference to play in Chicago. Considering there isn’t much difference between 2/3 they might even prefer that to being a 2 out west
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
Calipari pretended to agree with you yesterday. I agree too. Let’s see what the advertising funded committee thinks.
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It wouldn’t shock me if Cal is doing that to try and position his team better. Better to be the top 2 seed than the last 1 seed thinking is probably what he was doing. Maybe not though. He has never been shy about promoting the conference.
 
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golfballs said:
They’re not giving the committee a whole lot to go out on a limb for. They’re just not very impressive. I could see them making them a 3 and giving them their preference to play in Chicago. Considering there isn’t much difference between 2/3 they might even prefer that to being a 2 out west
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They’ve been playing his retirement like a Disney movie, but they just keep on losing. It will be interesting.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
They’ve been playing his retirement like a Disney movie, but they just keep on losing. It will be interesting.
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College basketball will be a better product when Coach K is done. Duke is about as privileged as they come, yet they haven’t one a title a quite some time by their standards. It’s also strange why they pump this retirement tour so much. I don’t think anyone outside of the minuscule Duke fanbase cares on iota about what that guy does.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
With the win over Kentucky, we moved up in several rankings.

#8 Sagarin
#1 Sagarin / Recent Score
#5 Massey
#5 BPI
#8 NET

Unfortunately, the NCAA relies on the NET rankings, which is the most flawed of the bunch and seems to produce a few wacky results. It's had Houston as the #3 team in the country for a long time, and while Houston is being underrated a bit, I don't see how anyone could put them at #3.

Overall, I feel like we're solidly a #2 seed right now, but I'm not sure if the selection committee will recognize it or not. We're 10-7 against Quad 1 teams and we played much better in the 2nd half of the season than the 1st. With the win over Kentucky yesterday, we look like the #1 SEC team regardless of the outcome today. And I don't see how they could put 8 other teams above us, particularly with Duke losing in a blowout to Virginia Tech yesterday. Of the 7 teams above us in NET, we should still be ahead of Houston, and Kentucky with the win yesterday. Which should make us the #6 overall seed at a minimum.

For now, these "bracketology experts" (who are not actually experts) think we're a 3. CBS still has us as a 3 and Lunardi at ESPN still has Auburn, Kentucky, and Duke above us at the 2 line. (Seriously, how could anyone have us below Duke at this point?) We'll see if the selection committee agrees soon.
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Houston lost their best player and has been going down hill for the last month. They aren’t even Top 20 worthy right now. Memphis has beaten them twice in the last month and don’t be surprised if they do it again today. Houston is not what it was early in the season.
 
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TheMookieMonster said:
Yes, but the “experts” say Auburn and Kentucky should be ahead of us because…well…..because. You know I’m not sure why but Tennessee is obviously a #3 seed!

In all seriousness, we should be a 2 and I hope the committee is objective and rewards that.
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Several projections say we will be a 2 seed unless we lose and Purdue wins. I say we should just win and remove all doubt.
 
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Just now: "Tennessee's seeding has not changed from a 3"

Joe Lunardi can bite my ass.
 
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TennTom said:
Just now: "Tennessee's seeding has not changed from a 3"

Joe Lunardi can bite my ass.
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He is a complete joke. I can’t believe his justification. Just because they were ahead of us all year and we tied for 2nd in the regular season? Smh
 
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